13:00:10 #startmeeting 13:00:10 Meeting started Tue Nov 18 13:00:10 2014 UTC. The chair is hcderaad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:18 Hi all! Welcome again to another openSUSE conference 2015 project meeting! 13:02:03 We've prepared an agenda for the meeting again, if anyone has any additional points, please tell! 13:02:10 #topic Agenda 13:02:12 #info Location quotation 13:02:13 #info Social media contact points and announcements 13:02:15 #info Actions from previous meeting 13:02:16 #info Other points 13:02:45 Does anyone have any additional points? 13:03:18 hello! nothing additional from me. :-) 13:03:29 moin 13:03:41 Hello SveborP and henne! 13:04:08 has the logo been discussed 13:04:08 Ok, i'll carry on then! 13:04:40 Hi ddemaio_ not yet, i've done a request to anditosan a while back and today have forwarded that request to the artwork team. 13:04:48 ok 13:04:50 Hopefully we can start working on that soon 13:05:11 What would be a good approach here? Do we need to do some more groundwork perhaps? 13:05:19 are you sure that redmine is the right tool? :-/ 13:05:44 Perhaps another poll on a suitable logo? I think the poll for the theme worked great! 13:05:54 henne how do you mean? In general or regarding the artwork? 13:06:10 in general. I don't see too many people joining 13:06:35 I recognize that, but unfortunately so far that also is the case in these meetings (i think today we already have a record!) 13:06:45 true 13:07:06 Functionally redmine suits us, i think the main issue is that we need to start communicating asap 13:07:19 Thats on the agenda later, regarding announcements. 13:07:19 yeah 13:07:27 regarding the theme and the logo 13:07:42 I can only suggest strongly that you 'just' decide 13:07:49 Ok, i'll do the info for the location quotation and then go on. 13:08:02 #topic Location quotation 13:08:03 don't poll for artwork 13:08:03 yeah, i also don't think redmine is the problem. it just takes time to involve people 13:08:04 #info The quotation hasnt been received yet. HdR has done followup. Robin and HdR have had a meeting with our contact at the location (BINK36), a formal quotation for the conference is to be expected soon, this will be presented to the board. 13:08:05 #topic Social media contact points and announcements 13:08:07 #info We need to start witn announcements for the conference, at least the following announcements need to be done: 13:08:08 #info - Conference announcement for date and location 13:08:10 #info - Call for papers and invitation for speakers 13:08:11 #info - Request input on speakers from the community 13:08:13 #info - Request for team members 13:08:26 people in general don't know shit about what's attractive and what's not :-) 13:08:27 henne ok no poll for a logo 13:08:39 henne agreed, i am definitely one of them! ;-) 13:08:49 +1 :-) 13:09:01 then drop that decision on someone who you think knows ;) 13:09:20 Robined is good at that! :-) 13:09:25 lets stick with the agenda and discuss the other stuff later 13:09:43 Agreed ddemaio_ we will continue with the announcements 13:10:07 There have been some drafts on redmine for announcements: https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/osc15/documents 13:10:29 These need to be extended and finalized, i will do that later this week 13:11:24 I used one of these to publish the announcement of the conf/call to join the organization on www.open.hr 13:11:31 Did anyone have a chance to look at them? 13:11:37 SveborP thats great, any responses? 13:12:22 I think you should concentrate on the general announcement 13:12:24 no :-( .. and no redmine joins i guess? :-\ but i can get a more complete oSC15 announcement article published on racunalo.com and linuxzasve.com .. once we write those.. 13:12:41 how does one join redmine? 13:12:46 #action Revise/write general announcement. 13:13:16 Henne, i am not sure what you mean? One can sign up for progress.opensuse.org right? 13:13:21 yes 13:13:33 you can just log in with your opensuse credentials 13:13:34 and then? 13:13:45 Isnt the conf in the project list? 13:14:06 Perhaps this should be explained better. 13:14:15 it is 13:14:16 I'll pick that up in the announcement. 13:14:18 I can view everything 13:14:20 do nothing 13:14:33 #action Explain Redmine and test becoming projectteam member 13:14:45 I think you first have to be added to the members 13:15:16 Ok, back to the announcements, are there any points regarding the announcements left? 13:15:19 you need to explain that on the home page 13:15:35 henne on OSEM you mean? 13:16:32 no in progress 13:17:26 just note it down in the project info 13:17:34 question about the location 13:17:36 I think i just did. 13:17:43 Do we have an exact address 13:18:10 ddemaio_ Yes: 13:18:10 is BINK36 13:18:11 hcderaad: explain the how please 13:18:11 BINK36 13:18:12 Binckhorstlaan 36 13:18:14 2516 BE Den Haag 13:18:15 Netherlands 13:18:24 henne ok will do that after the meeting. 13:18:33 k 13:18:54 hcderaad: you should also explain how we work in progress 13:19:11 henne arent there any manuals or faqs? 13:19:22 I'll take a look at that later this week then. 13:19:34 #action More instructions on Redmine/ progress for new users 13:19:45 hcderaad: on how we as oSC organizers use the tool? 13:20:01 you need to explain that we track individual tasks in issues 13:20:20 henne yes i understand that. I will look at it later this week. 13:20:23 k 13:20:32 Lets get back on the announcements, any more input on that? 13:20:38 yeah 13:20:48 you need to focus on the general announcement 13:21:10 and then pipe it as soon as you can through the openSUSE News team at new@opensuse.org 13:21:24 henne, yes i've made an action item of that in the minutes, will do that later this week. Thanks for the mailadress, will incorporate them. 13:21:28 or even collaboratively write it somewhere 13:21:43 on an etherpad or something like that 13:22:16 We already have a couple of docs in Redmine for that purpose (look under marketing): https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/osc15/documents 13:22:22 They must be extended and finalized. 13:23:02 yes this is the ONE most important article 13:23:06 I agree 13:23:20 if you don't grab the attention of people with this one, you never will 13:23:27 I think what henne is trying to say is that we need a headline, lead and bridge. 13:23:28 this needs to have bang 13:23:44 the rest of the info can flow after that 13:24:02 I can work it 13:24:23 Yes, agreed, i want to have a steady flow of announcements about every 2 weeks from now. We should definitely catch more attention. 13:24:42 Thats why i also want to start inviting speakers and promote those on the site and in the announcements. 13:24:45 so let's make a timetable 13:25:11 Fine by me. 13:25:37 what kind of announcements do we want to do and when? 13:26:15 I've already posted a number of suggestions in this thread: 13:26:17 - Conference announcement for date and location 13:26:18 - Call for papers and invitation for speakers 13:26:20 - Request input on speakers from the community 13:26:21 - Request for team members 13:26:51 Request input on speakers from the community? 13:27:06 Yes, i would like to have people suggest speakers so we can invite them 13:27:18 I want to start approaching speakers asap so that we can be more selective 13:27:50 that sounds like a part of the CFP announcement :-) 13:28:12 true, but i think it wouldnt hurt to emphasize that request 13:28:20 A cfp is normally for the speakers themselves 13:28:29 At least, that is what i am used to in a cfp 13:29:00 sure 13:29:41 here is what we have published for oSC14 13:30:03 1. General announcement 13:30:18 2. CFP 13:30:28 3. Travel Support Open 13:30:33 so to sum the above up. the will do the following 1. Conference announcement for date and location 2, Call for papers and invitation for speakers 3. - Request input on speakers from the community 4.- Request for team members 13:30:57 ddemaio_ that sounds about right 13:31:16 4. Keynotes 13:31:30 5. Sneak Peaks at session highlights 13:31:54 henne those are definitely topics to touch later on, lets start with the first 4 13:31:56 6. Help promote oSC14 13:32:10 7. Location Sneak Peak 13:32:17 Perhaps we can even increase the announcement frequency to once a week? 13:32:20 8. Program Available 13:32:32 9. oSC14 has started 13:32:33 I'm not seeing it that way henne 13:32:59 I dont think we _need_ to follow the exact same structure as osc14 13:33:02 10-12: Days recap 13:33:06 13. General recap 13:33:08 It is nice as input though 13:33:38 henne, is that all? ;-) 13:33:45 it's pretty simmilar for oSC13 13:34:29 yes that's all 13:35:09 Ok, thanks again for the input. I think we'll have to decide when to publish as we go along 13:35:22 But it would be nice to have an announcement every week/2 weeks from now on 13:35:26 well for some of them there are deadliunes 13:35:50 so I guess we should make a timetable... 13:36:10 I would suggest to put the coming announcements as tasks into redmine 13:36:15 yes 13:36:17 Also, i will do some more work on extending the list of tasks in redmin 13:36:25 This is too limited atm 13:36:41 yeah 13:36:41 #action Fill tasks in redmine 13:36:48 #action Add announcements as tasks in redmine 13:36:49 if you don't track _ALL_ stuff in the issues 13:36:55 nobody knows what's going on 13:36:58 whos doing what 13:37:04 when is something needs to be finished 13:37:35 Yeah, we've tried to work with separate documents, that obviously doesnt work very well 13:37:49 I can tell you. not at all. 13:38:03 I'm interested in helping but I don't know how to start 13:38:13 and I'm a _very_ seasoned openSUSE dude 13:38:24 some would say overripe 13:38:27 stinky 13:38:39 rotten ;) 13:38:46 ok, tasks it will be! 13:39:45 cool 13:40:03 I think we have pretty much covered the topic of announcements by now, right? 13:40:47 #topic Open actions from previous meeting 13:40:49 http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/2014/opensuse-project.2014-11-03-14.00.html 13:40:50 #info - Ask Henne to enable the groups assignments in Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/issues/2964 ) We also need multiple assignees per item in Issues, Users, Issue categories - No response from Henne yet, Hans and Robin will email Henne. 13:40:52 #info hcderaad will contact Henne for basic website. - Henne has responded, now we have a basic website in OSEM! 13:40:53 #info - Make document in Redmine about conferences where oSC15 can be promoted 13:40:55 #info - robined will call NFI, they have cool stuff 13:40:56 #info - All team members: Supply ideas for speakers and talks and update them in Redmine document 13:42:01 Any input on these points? 13:42:28 about the redmine stuff I just answered your mail 13:42:46 Saw that, thanks! 13:42:49 you need to ask admin@opensuse.org 13:43:01 Will do! 13:43:15 I'm also working currently on the 'website' feature in osem 13:43:23 Great, what can we expect from that? 13:44:00 basically nice design 13:44:07 nicer* 13:44:36 Ok, that would be nice! 13:45:10 Can the "View conference" page also be directly shown from conference.opensuse.org? 13:46:15 sure 13:46:41 Pretty please? 13:47:06 that might break older links 13:47:11 but we can do that 13:47:39 make an issue, assign it to me 13:47:47 I can look into that 13:47:49 What older links could there be? The older conf sites all went offline quite some time ago. Ok, i'll put it in redmine! 13:48:31 well there are links to conference.opensuse.org/osem/blah which currently rewrite to events.opensuse.org/blah 13:48:45 as this is the new place for osem 13:48:57 anyway. details. I look into that 13:49:14 Yes, we can keep events the way it is, i'd like to have the conference subdomain set to the View conference. 13:49:21 The other rewrites can stay imho. 13:49:25 for the promotion at other conferences 13:49:37 we need the theme + logo for that 13:49:43 Yup, working on that. 13:49:52 so people can go wild on promotion material 13:49:53 Theme is: Flexibility through diversity 13:50:09 Logo is requested on the artwork ml, will try to follow that up daily. 13:50:28 don't request stuff from mailing lists 13:50:34 talk to people directly 13:50:40 andi in this case 13:50:43 Tried that too, no response yet. 13:50:51 Will ping/mail him again about this. 13:50:52 svetlana 13:50:57 ken 13:51:07 Svetlana is new for me, ken also, will look them up at connect 13:51:09 thanks! 13:51:12 nobody ready mailinglists anymore these days 13:51:18 reads* 13:51:18 Yeah, i gathered.... 13:51:30 anything you ask of Svetlana, be sure to ask ken 13:51:46 Ok, fine, healthy competition! 13:52:03 Thanks for the input guys, this helps! 13:52:28 you should also make tasks for individual promo meaterial 13:52:50 We already have one for the logo, rest will follow asap 13:52:56 https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/3934 13:53:24 Ok, i'd like to start wrapping this meeting up. 13:53:25 Web Banners 13:53:30 Are there any other points 13:53:32 Posters 13:53:38 Brochure 13:53:44 Shirts 13:53:46 henne Yes, i've already got a list in the spreadsheet we originally created 13:53:50 k 13:53:55 Will put them in Redmine 13:53:58 But thanks 13:54:08 Again, any other points we havent covered yet? 13:55:02 social media plan 13:55:36 We can go with a cycle similar to go the releases 13:55:37 Good point, will add that as an issue. For now the social media approach is simply spread the announcements. 13:55:53 Is there some kind of blueprint for those ddemaio_ ? 13:56:30 I can create a plan for it like we did with 13.2 13:56:56 issue + assign to ddemaio_ 13:56:58 That would be great! If you have something already please send it to me/put it in Redmine.. 13:57:12 henne I think we are in agreement! :-) 13:57:12 ok 13:57:34 Ok, great 13:58:04 Next meeting will be in 2 weeks then, because of unavailability of yours truly on the 2nd of dec it will be moved to monday the 1st 13:58:16 2014 dec 1 start 13h UTC / 14h CEST 13:58:29 sounds good. 13:58:46 I want to thank you all for the great input today! Looking forward to working on Redmine issues! :-) 13:59:18 #action Social media plan into redmine 13:59:48 thank you 14:00:04 #endmeeting