15:01:37 #startmeeting openSUSE Project meeting 15:01:37 Meeting started Wed Jan 22 15:01:37 2014 UTC. The chair is vuntz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:50 * tigerfoot could be disturbed at anytime, so sorry if I don't anwser immediately 15:02:35 soooo, it looks like the agenda is empty (it only contains items from last meeting) 15:02:55 anything that people would like to discuss? 15:03:19 hmmmm... no :D 15:03:21 manugupt1, hey there 15:03:45 vuntz: gsoc? 15:03:52 Koda hey 15:05:10 sure, we can discuss gsoc 15:05:17 #topic GSoC 15:05:20 saurabhsood91: go ahead :-) 15:05:52 we have about two weeks to submit our applications 15:06:01 we havent had much activity so far 15:06:08 I only see two ideas so far on the page :/ 15:07:32 out of curiosity, do we know how advanced our peers are with gsoc ideas? 15:08:12 hello folks ... 15:08:58 awafaa Fedora's got a few things lined up 15:09:11 awafaa: KDE, Fedora and GNOME are prety active 15:09:24 Apache too 15:10:06 ok so we really need to somehow step up a gear, any ideas on how to do that? 15:10:22 vuntz: here now 15:10:42 We need People willing to mentor 15:11:03 I guess we can ask and ping 15:11:29 not to mention a large calibre proposal 15:11:43 i had put in a reminder mail about a few days back. i can do the same again 15:12:20 some solid ideas from the OBS and YaST team could also be added 15:12:27 the 2 current gsoc ideas are rather tame. 15:12:27 saurabhsood91: please do re-send 15:12:28 Kigurame I think we will be able to get them 15:12:43 Openqa too.. 15:13:21 I had some enquiries from students too, about GSoC projects 15:13:50 anybody got updates on marketing materials? someone from the marketing team? 15:14:08 * warlordfff here 15:14:34 ishwon: let's do that topic next, after we're done with gsoc 15:14:54 Awafaa can you ping arm list once again, we should have at least hardware relayed project 15:15:17 yes, sure ;) 15:15:30 vuntz, manugupt1, awafaa: what about collaborating with other orgs this time? 15:16:04 saurabhsood91: try less broadcasting :-) 15:16:21 saurabhsood91: means go to specific people 15:16:23 saurabhsood91: it's up to you, the gsoc admins, if we want to do it 15:16:24 I am Into it but owncloud and hedgewars are applying 15:16:36 henne: agree to that :) 15:16:36 saurabhsood91: but I think we'll want to 15:17:12 Henne we still have not seen your ideas :-) 15:17:25 ok i'll ask 15:17:28 manugupt1: true :) 15:17:28 vuntz: from the last meeting for orgs that didnt make it, it was clear that Google encourages orgs to collaborate and participate under a common umbrella 15:17:54 manugupt1: it helps if you ask me directly 15:18:14 Henne I know.. I will.do that once I am home 15:18:25 k 15:18:42 One more thing 15:19:56 Like some mentors do not have all the skill set like ui.toolkits but will still like to mentor, can we ask the students to take help from mailing lists directly 15:20:37 Like it may seem that one yast guy may not have the time to mentor but a group of people can certainly help 15:21:24 of course 15:21:24 i'd have no problem answering questions on a mailing list 15:21:30 manugupt1: co-mentors? 15:21:31 we still need a mentor, though 15:22:04 vuntz: I just don't have the time for that atm. 15:22:35 Saurabhsood91 I know a lot of people not willing to mentor but have time to help via ml 15:22:53 but i'd be happy to answer to a problem on the ML 15:23:16 manugupt1: agreed 15:23:29 manugupt1: ok...but isnt it a potential problem? i mean delayed replies or something like that? 15:24:32 Then the student needs to fund his way.. but under openSUSE I personally have not seen delays more than 48 hours 15:24:54 manugupt1: +1 :) 15:25:15 we could also just have a IRC channel for rapid response stuff 15:25:16 saurabhsood91: I've just gone through github: http://paste.opensuse.org/15797547 15:25:17 #info list of projects is too small for now 15:25:20 #info we need more mentors 15:25:30 #info manugupt1 is looking if other projects might want to participate with us 15:26:01 saurabhsood91, manugupt1: anything else you'd like to mention for gsoc? 15:26:17 henne: contact points? 15:26:19 I am done 15:27:31 Henne thanks a lot 15:28:09 thanks for the list henne :) 15:28:26 ok, cool 15:28:46 saurabhsood91, manugupt1: thanks for the update! 15:29:45 #topic Update on marketing materials 15:29:52 that was the question from ishwon 15:30:11 anybody got an update? 15:30:27 ishwon: I dont have the whole picture, but I do know the openSUSE team have produced a bunch of marketing materials for FOSDEM which I understand are effectively the first steps in fixing the wider issue 15:30:44 The new flyers look pretty impressive 15:30:58 yes, i saw that in the mailing list. didn't get a glimpse of the gears though. 15:31:04 any pictures around? 15:31:43 ishwon: I have my phone with me, I guess if I can pinch one of the flyers I can put some pictures up somewhere 15:32:37 yup, that'll be great. thanks. i have an event ahead, "Corsair Hackers Reboot". A date hasn't been fixed yet though. 15:32:59 I'm setting up an openSUSE booth there 15:33:12 related to this: any update on the sponsoring for local production of materials? 15:33:24 Got 2 laptops, a couple of posters/banners that I'm gonna print. 15:33:48 My only issue is production of DVDs. 15:34:22 I also checked out for printing openSUSE notebook stickers, it's too expensive here. 15:34:48 Maybe I'll order only a few around from unixstickers.com 15:35:31 tux93: Sadly no, but it is already is on the Agenda for the Face to Face Board meeting which happens in a few weeks - the Board should have an opportunity to talk to the appropriate people at SUSE then 15:35:42 * vuntz was about to say what ilmehtar wrote 15:36:02 ishwon: I know unixstickers.com actually produced some of the materials for us at FOSDEM :) 15:36:59 ok thanks, just asking someone doing the openSUSE booth at CLT asked me 15:37:02 Question 15:37:06 *because 15:37:11 oh, in that case, does openSUSE get discount coupons on large orders? If yes, I could order large number of stickers from unixstickers. 15:37:30 Yet still, for the DVD production I'm kinda stuck. 15:38:06 The only materials that are ok on my end are posters, flyers & banners. Maybe T-shirt as well can be arranged (I'll have to check around). 15:39:16 ishwon: No we don't get discounts on large orders - when we gave them permission to use the openSUSE logo, we did request they provide the project with some free stickers, but those free stickers (and more which SUSE have kindly paid for) are the ones they're providing for FOSDEM 15:40:01 Can I aak a question, is it possible to open local shops from which SUSE can order that saves shipping cost and asia is cheaper than eu afaik 15:40:32 ishwon: I will drop my contact at unixstickers.com an email though, and see if something like that could be arranged for our Advocates. It's worth asking at least :) 15:40:40 ok, i'll just order a few of the stickers & push pins then, as budget permits. 15:40:52 ilmehtar: maybe it's good to look into some form of crowdfunding for small events ? 15:40:59 ilmehtar: yeah, that'll nice. thanks. 15:41:25 manugupt1: i didn't get the question? 15:41:28 vuntz: hit me with an action item? 15:41:30 ilmehtar: any of that material for FOSDEM happens to be the one we asked Jos to take care of regarding oSC14? 15:41:45 so there are some funds available outside of suse or sponsors for small stuff. 15:41:53 differentreality: the oSC14 promotional stuff (posters + others?) went to the printers, yes 15:42:04 great tnx :) 15:42:08 #action ilmehtar to ask unixstickers.com if we can get discounts on large orders for our advocates 15:42:44 kigurame: that's an interesting idea, biggest question to answer would be 'where does the money go?' - the openSUSE Project doesn't have its own bank account 15:42:52 I mean we may setup local contracts that can ship stuff and through reimbursement scheme they can reimburse the contractor 15:44:34 ilmehtar: that's a good question with cloverleaf we just setup a account for the non profit and appointed a treasures 15:45:14 Then public quarterly reports so all this might be too much work 15:46:15 ilmehtar: but that said other projects do it. 15:46:27 kigurame: we don't have a non-profit, though 15:47:31 kigurame: more understanding, control, etc of 'the Budget' (currently predominantly provided and administered by our lovely sponsors SUSE) is already an agenda topic for our Face to Face Board meeting - I'm adding 'Possible Crowdfunding' as a sub-item to discuss as part of that greater topic 15:47:33 ilmehtar vuntz :I guess i could do some research and see what the options are 15:47:52 kigurame: if you could, and get us that info to us before Feb 7th, that would be awesome 15:48:07 no problem. 15:48:24 okay 15:48:29 any other topic? 15:48:29 you can action me on that if you wish. 15:48:34 #topic anything else? 15:48:39 quick question? 15:48:54 oh, as ilmehtar mentioned, we have a face-to-face board meeting in two weeks 15:48:56 Yeah where are the donuts 15:49:01 nothing on my end ;) 15:49:05 so if there's anything you think we should discuss there, please tell us! 15:49:28 #info board has a face-to-face meeting in two weeks; feel free to contact us to give us more topics to discuss! 15:50:36 Can't really think of anything. 15:50:39 Can the board put its agenda of discussion do that people 15:50:44 Have ideas 15:51:00 I don't know if it is a good idea 15:51:11 #action kigurame to investigate possible crowdfunding solutions and report back to Board 15:51:21 And I.have no opinions 15:51:58 manugupt1: I think the expectation is we'll publish a Public Agenda before the meeting and Minutes afterwards, just like we always do for our non-face-to-face meetings 15:52:40 but we want to make sure we talk about topics that matter to the community (us, we, the people here now), not just the topics we think that matter :) 15:53:45 lol 15:53:46 I did not understand sorry 15:53:58 I beg your pardon, ilmehtar I was thinking the inverse :-) 15:54:53 To add a point, ask openSUSE Team to report back soon their conclusion & analysis about Factory, 2016 objective, and anything else. 15:56:15 tigerfoot: you can edit the agenda ;-) 15:56:18 ok, anything else? 15:56:25 yes 15:56:47 Would someone like to help out with finalizing and posting in news the announcement for oSC14 CfP open? It was supposed to go out on Monday but hasn't. A draft with main information is provided https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OXw9yZKNAtYQLxrv7hz0bKDE6jGaYwCoAXFcW1fX4TQ/edit#heading=h.2zahdoz8jleb (2nd announcement - CfP opens) 15:59:53 differentreality: so you need someone from the news team? 16:00:00 yes 16:01:24 have you mailed news@o.o? 16:02:15 not for this particular issue. We had discussed some time ago, well mainly Jos said that he could do the editing and adding if we provided a draft with the actual info 16:03:25 Just give Jos a poke then. 16:03:42 Jos is not around 16:04:17 I can poke him but I doubt he has time 16:04:23 differentreality: it's always best to mail news@o.o 16:04:25 that's my impression too 16:05:03 vuntz: honestly maybe Svebor did actually contact news@, I am not sure, I am just asking the question because Svebor couldnt attend and he asked me 16:05:04 <|miska|> there is an article on news.o.o already, right? 16:05:12 Gave him a little nudge anyway. 16:05:14 <|miska|> if there isn't - it will have to be written still... 16:05:17 there is the first article announcing oSC14 is in Croatia 16:05:36 CfP was supposed to open on Monday 16:05:54 technically it is open, we just haven't communicated to the world 16:05:54 |miska|: differentreality gave a draft a few lines ago :-) 16:05:55 <|miska|> differentreality: you sure there is no other article? if so - sorry, jos didn't have time for it :( 16:06:20 |miska|: I don't see anything else in news at least :) 16:06:34 <|miska|> differentreality: ok, then it is not there. did jos not work on that already? the g'doc I mean? 16:06:35 and I have no way of knowing if there is some draft in news@ 16:06:38 <|miska|> is that in a bad shape 16:06:57 I really don't know... 16:06:58 <|miska|> differentreality: aaaah ok, you don't have access to news.o.o - well, henne does so he can check that :D 16:07:07 huh? 16:07:24 there is a draft on gdoc 16:07:26 which needs love 16:07:27 yeah henne 16:07:46 * |miska| is back, jos took over of my irc for a little time 16:08:31 <|miska|> henne: jos meant that you have access to news and you can check whether it is already in news as draft 16:08:45 jos doesn't have time for this until next monday 16:08:48 he just said to me 16:08:54 slacker 16:09:01 <|miska|> :-) 16:09:01 so mail news@o.o and see if someone else has time... 16:09:42 isn't there anyone from news@ present to the meeting? 16:10:01 * henne hides 16:11:00 henne: that's ok, you got work to do checking the volunteering thingie in osem 16:11:33 I have too much on my plate. failing left and right :-( 16:11:51 neglecting my day job 16:12:02 figured u re busy... 16:12:28 but I dont know who else I can bother either, so :) 16:12:29 too busy. I need help 16:12:41 differentreality: news@o.o is the solution :-) 16:12:43 anyhow 16:12:56 I guess we're done with the meeting now! 16:13:21 thanks all! 16:13:23 indeed 16:13:26 #endmeeting