16:02:29 #startmeeting oSC14 organization meeting 16:02:29 Meeting started Thu Dec 19 16:02:29 2013 UTC. The chair is robjo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:02:48 hi everyone! 16:03:27 The agenda is posted here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_meeting#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting 16:03:35 ;-) 16:04:05 thanx for the agenda paste, we don't have many things to go through today I think. 16:04:06 SveborP, robjo hi 16:04:22 hi CarlosRibeiro 16:04:46 it seems there aren't many people here today 16:05:31 * tux93 is reading 16:05:49 so, most of the items of the agenda are reports to be commented upon 16:05:52 That might make it easier to reach decisions ;) 16:05:59 indeed :-) 16:06:07 +1 on the logo from my side 16:07:18 CarlosRibeiro, are you ok with the chosen logo in the end? I really liked seeing the way it evolved through various proposals :-) 16:07:51 Lucijana told me she couldn't be here today, but wanted to say she had some minor tweak ideas for the logo, but we're for it.. so 16:07:53 also +1 16:08:22 not bad about the logo. Lots of elements, keep the openSUSE original logo, but you know what? TO be honest I believe in the main time whe will find something more" wow that is the logo" 16:08:49 maybe a little variations or something else that I dont know what is it now 16:09:14 but as I said before... it's ok 16:09:15 maybe combination with other graphics for various materials? 16:09:26 hello :) 16:09:27 yep 16:09:32 cool 16:09:34 you are right 16:09:36 hi enola_ 16:10:25 ok, onto the motto, I think it makes sense to somehow reflect the topics at the conference, so we chose "The Strength to Change" 16:10:35 Im thinking when we will be creating badges, tshirts, flyers, brochures... so s we have several elements inside the logo will not be difficult to work with combinaing with the situation 16:11:04 two points about moto.. I mean, i have two questions 16:12:10 motto should be something specific and related with the conference or should be a motto that refletcs the general project situation... or even a mix of both ideas? 16:12:24 anditosan, hi man ;-) 16:12:28 hey 16:12:35 hi anditosan 16:12:36 are we talking about the motto? 16:12:43 anditosan, yep 16:12:54 I just started to comment right now about the motto 16:12:55 What's the issue with robjo s motto? 16:12:55 CarlosRibeiro, I think the motto should be a little of both 16:13:20 and maybe a more about the project and topics at the conference (IMO) 16:13:32 CarlosRibeiro: the motto is exactly that, for the first time we will have a "business track" and we have major changes going on in the project 16:13:49 robjo, I agree and I liked 16:13:54 my point is not about this 16:14:08 my point or my question is a previous step 16:14:34 if the purpose of motto is to reflect the actual situation of the project ... awwesom it s perfect 16:15:11 nice, so we all like it? :-) 16:15:16 I give it +1 16:15:17 but if the purpose of the motto is to reflect somehow a connection wit the place, area, region or hosted country.. maybe is not the best choseen 16:15:31 ah, sorry for replying to quickly :) 16:15:54 see the FIFA world cup motto for Brazil 2014 16:15:55 I don't think it has to be about the host country 16:16:40 I mean, we are going to have fun in the host country / town /area, but.. the conference is about opensuse 16:16:44 every time, the event chance hosts also together with the host changes motto and identity to better reflect or make connection with the hosted country 16:16:59 So far we have not considered the location fro the motto, henne has sent a nice summary of past mottos and their motivation, I think this one fits in line with previous years 16:16:59 I don't really get the *strength* to change, I think it's more about courage, but that wouldn't sound good... 16:17:36 robjo, +1 16:17:53 btw I'll work as volunterr at the FIFA 2014 as I alredy was approved few days ago.. and now during my training I seen many things about the volunterr topic that we can apply here in the conference 16:18:00 I only suggest 1, don't make it a paragraph 3-4 words max, 2 don't make it a tong twister ;) 16:20:13 I think the last time we agreed that the decision is up to the core team, lets not re-visit everything at every meeting 16:20:32 well, I see it like this. the discussion about the motto on the ML stopped, there have been 2 votes for the strength to change, and two votes on the first meeting for the geeko kingdom. if we are changing, we need to choose another motto right away because it needs to be done. 16:20:58 SveborP, +1 16:21:29 SveborP: then let's propose some new mottos in the ML and vote 16:21:51 I not agains t the actual motto, I just don't fells like the motto fits the motto purpose 16:22:05 good 16:22:09 uh, let's not.. it's been there for far too long. we either change it here during this meeting or stick to the motto we chose, like we agreed on the last meeting 16:22:13 No, we need to move forward, lets stick to what we already agreed on 16:22:51 then let's go with what was chosen 16:23:49 anditosan, I agree.. we can't change it in a jiffy I think and for it to stay good... 16:24:11 let's keep talking about motto in ml 16:24:21 #info Logo and Motto finalized as posted in the agenda 16:25:24 ok, report on trip to dubrovnik this weekend 16:26:15 robjo, anditosan SveborP let's keep finish this and keep the chosen one even I believe we have the skills to find a better one ;-) 16:26:51 as this topic is the huge impact of the next activities 16:26:52 we will go to talk with the tourist agency owner about accommodation, with the people at the university, to record some POIs for the map, and with City of Dubrovnik officials 16:27:24 CarlosRibeiro: I think it is too late. The motto was chosen in the ML and to reformualte a new set of words will take another long discussion. Let's stick with what we have. The limitations on design are always like this, work with what you have and use your creativity to build something around it. 16:28:04 anditosan, I agree I just believe we can do better ;-) 16:28:05 so I expect to return with offers and ways to book for various types of accommodation (private apartments, rooms, hotels ...) 16:29:06 At the University we'll try to speed up the work on contract with SUSE for the venue, and try to make a few photos of the conference area 16:29:27 we'll talk about possible sponsorship from the city of dubrovnik 16:29:38 and go see the proposed party places 16:30:09 so, any suggestions and ideas you might have for us to do while there, please ... email them or tell me now 16:30:30 Take as many pictures as you can of everything, hopefully we can incorporate a good chunk of them in the web site 16:30:55 Provide information on using public transport 16:31:18 how does one get from the airport/train station to ..... 16:31:50 if there is any info on "how to use the public transport system" that would be great 16:32:03 i.e. are there automated boxes, how much money is a ticket etc. 16:32:13 Is it hot in april in croatia? beach party maybe? 16:32:20 ok, we'll look into that 16:32:42 http://www.holiday-weather.com/dubrovnik/averages/april/ 16:32:47 This stuff is often hard to find on line and difficult to figure out when on site 16:33:16 not too warm, and not too cold 16:33:34 beach bon fire then! :D 16:33:47 I will seriously look into that possibility 16:33:56 if we have time is will not be so expensive I believe the transport system help during conference, must be also inside the badge and in the conference androind application to 16:34:05 robjo had an idea that would benefit from such a party 16:34:26 how faris Plitvice national park from the site? It would be a nice place for that oS party? 16:34:47 amon0thoth1, not close I'm afraid 16:35:00 CarlosRibeiro, yes, that is a good idea 16:35:15 I have seen an interactive map that Tomo sent me at some time 16:35:18 I don't think we have had many outside parties in past conferences, so it sounds cool! 16:35:22 but it was croatian only 16:35:29 SveborP: :-( 16:36:09 anditosan, in thessaloniki we have party in the beach 16:36:10 yup, amon0thoth1 .. around 5 hours car drive 16:36:14 was awesome 16:36:21 CarlosRibeiro: oh nice! 16:36:55 ok, and what kind of bars do you guys prefer - for the welcome party 16:36:59 I believe we haveabout 5 parties during the conference... yep now I remember, almost every night :D cool 16:37:04 and how many people do often show up there? 16:37:09 SveborP: omg! too far for geekos. 16:38:01 Hello... 16:38:21 SveborP, kind of bar? simple one i believe 16:38:33 :-) ok 16:38:34 alexandros, hello 16:38:42 alexandros, hi 16:38:51 what i wanted to ask is - music or no music 16:38:52 SveborP: I think the "how many people" question is best addressed via mail based on previous events, lets gather input from henne, _miska_ and differentreality 16:38:55 CarlosRibeiro, i confirm everything you say about oSC13... 16:38:58 Mljet national park is closer to Dubrovnik 16:39:09 alexandros, ;-) 16:39:35 SveborP: music yes, but it's not a "dance party" ;) 16:39:38 SveborP, we must do not forget about the volunteers party 16:40:09 ah, ok. volunteers party wasn't on my list. :-) 16:40:28 robjo, roger on the number 16:40:55 SveborP: there are beautiful beaches close to Dubrovnik. I do not know how close they are (Banje, Pile, Lapad) 16:40:57 amon0thoth1, there are also fun places to go around dubrovnik, Lokrum is just 15 minute boat ride from old town http://www.dubrovnik-secrets.com/ds/islands_lokrum.html 16:41:10 it's all very close 16:41:14 robjo, +1 for send a question to henne, miska and differentreality about how many ppl 16:41:42 But we need to see how do we organize such a party without getting the police tu chase us out of there.. :-) 16:41:57 SveborP: the party stuff will be basically up to you, you and your team have the best knowledge of available venues, no need fro input from people that live far away 16:42:48 robjo: +1 16:42:50 I know, but it's nice to see what seems interesting to others.. in the end we will do it and try to make it fun for everyone 16:42:56 SveborP, do you know someone that wishes to participate in the event that have a bar? 16:43:01 SveborP: the police in our party? I say, let's have fun hahahah 16:43:34 CarlosRibeiro, Tomo knows a few people, and I will talk to him about it 16:44:22 ok, moving on 16:44:57 sponsorship brochure - Izabel made and sent a few drafts 16:45:35 I will go through it over the weekend and we'll have it ready soon I hope 16:45:55 venue contract - Agustin sent the draft 16:46:24 oh... I I was waiting for your feedback about the previous one.. like if you want keep the levels model like gold, silver, platinium. .. 16:46:42 I will go through it with people at the University in Dubrovnik so we produce feedback by next week 16:46:51 SveborP: do you need editing in the brochure? I can help! 16:47:09 CarlosRibeiro, probably yes, I just didn't get to really take a look at it yet - got it just yesterday afternoon 16:47:09 anditosan, we need first to decide what kind of contents 16:47:26 because depending of the contents we can change or not the design 16:47:27 Ok 16:47:42 I mean, paragraph editing 16:48:45 anditosan, sure, I will just have to first go through it, see if we can contribute to it somehow and then get back to Izabel 16:48:56 k 16:49:04 and after we'll go to editing and such 16:49:20 another good idea is to directly ping izabel, henne, differentreality and ask then what the believe we missed duting the sponsorship brochure after was done, and what they believe that could be improved 16:50:34 CarlosRibeiro, sure 16:50:38 for sure izabel knows what ppl(sponsors) most liked and most dislike during sponsorship brochure presentation 16:51:16 I'll let izabel know and as soon as she says it's ok to start sharing further I guess 16:51:35 yep 16:52:38 ok, movin on to the CfP plan that robjo sent.. It seems fine by me and I think it's ok to start working on an announcement? 16:52:39 robjo, any idea or suggestion about how we can improve the sponsorship brochure? 16:52:52 CarlosRibeiro, sorry, too quick again. :-) 16:53:35 robjo, 5 16:53:37 4 16:53:39 3 16:53:41 2 16:53:43 I think we should keep the levels we hade previously and we need to stay focused on oSc 16:54:23 all the other stuff, i.e. how to make multiple events attractive to sponsors is a separate discussion 16:54:39 this needs to happen in parallel and not influence the current plan 16:54:46 robjo, we are already keeping focus on conference as the sponsorship is one of the most important things about the osc ;-) 16:54:51 I thought last years brochure was good 16:55:18 we should keep most of it in tack, IMHO 16:55:56 OK, on to CfP 16:55:56 without soponsroship hardly we can do other things ... but ok, you like to move ahead, so go on 16:55:56 cfp 16:56:35 CarlosRibeiro: our primary sponsor is not dependent on the sponsorship brochure 16:56:36 +1 for the proposal snt by robjo to ml 16:57:18 OK, got it. As I said, I will look at what Izabel sent. And I think there hardly will be any changes, even less significant ones. I will probably just agree with what Izabel sent me. :-) I might have some ideas for local sponsors but, it's hard to say now because i really haven't looked at what she sent. 16:57:20 sooooooorry all, grandma duty took unexpectedly longer 16:57:40 differentreality: oh grandma! 16:57:50 +1 for cfp prposal 16:57:51 The CfP team also decided that it will take care of the keynote seaker 16:58:19 thus we will solicit ideas from the community for a speaker and then make a selection 16:58:50 hi differentreality 16:59:04 hi differentreality 16:59:23 hey all :) 16:59:32 differentreality, hello 16:59:33 robjo, the proposal you sent actually reminded me we could call someone from Croteam to talk about developing games for Linux 17:00:53 so, just putting it out there.. (they are the ones who develop Serious Sam games), could be interesting .. topic might be somewhere between enthusiast and geeko suits 17:02:12 ok, moving on? 17:02:32 I will send a separate e-mail to the list about speaker proposals 17:02:58 ok 17:03:22 With the logo and motto chosen we'll get OSEM set up shortly 17:04:08 moving on? 17:04:27 yes 17:04:37 ok for moving on by me as I have nothing to add to the cfp 17:04:37 ok, so OSEM will be setup shortly 17:04:58 and we need announcements 17:05:32 so maybe we can define some deadlines for those? 17:05:43 SveborP: I have been working on editing the cfp announcements in the google doc 17:06:40 cool! do you think the 1st one is ready? 17:06:59 is it this file? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OXw9yZKNAtYQLxrv7hz0bKDE6jGaYwCoAXFcW1fX4TQ/edit#heading=h.8cvv3qm6hzn 17:07:03 pretty much, but I think it needs extra details, it seems rather short 17:07:06 Yes, that one 17:07:40 ok, can we help? 17:08:30 or maybe put the comments into it so anyone that wants can contribute 17:08:43 and maybe have it published by Monday? 17:09:12 Yes, if you can add more deatails about it I can edit more for you 17:09:24 Put a deadline on the trello card and I will look at it 17:10:08 for the record cfp announcement will be different - the program committee can easily put the facts there for you... Making it nice, that's a different story ( henne , jospoortvliet... ) 17:10:28 differentreality: I'll be there for you :D 17:10:30 always 17:10:31 :P 17:10:45 I think we have most everything defined to make an announcement that is meaningful and does not provide information in chunks that are by themselves rather insignificant 17:10:46 jospoortvliet: :D :*** (plz remember what u just said... I want to come to Berlin sometime soon :P) 17:10:47 ok, what do you need for 1st? pictures, stories about Dubrovnik, venue..? 17:11:23 SveborP: yes, that. Especially - a LOGO :D 17:11:35 but stories - not so much. I can grab stuff from wikipedia, if needed... 17:11:38 I think, 2 photos and a paragraph pretty much saying why Durbrovnik is such a cool location 17:11:43 great, a logo is available here https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/51efb2afe6df929a28002210/52a14417b0e4806f090016a8/b8305417bc8e41ff225eeef0d44c97f3/photo.jpg 17:11:49 jospoortvliet: wikipedia? hehehe 17:12:01 SveborP: see https://news.opensuse.org/2013/01/24/opensuse-conference-2013-geeko-gets-geared-up/ 17:12:06 jospoortvliet: I will put links in comments with logo and/or photos as they come along, if that helps you 17:12:30 SveborP: I need a bit 'about the event', a bit about the city, tickets and registration, sponsoring... Much I can take from last time, I bet. 17:12:34 jospoortvliet, great, will be written 17:12:55 SveborP: rough draft is fine, really rough is ok - bullet points for example :D I'd be happy to polish it 17:13:30 SveborP: nice logo btw :D 17:13:40 Lets add the CfP information into the announcement as well this year as we have the dates already worked out 17:13:43 SveborP: it is somewhere in svg, I hope? 17:13:57 and after that me or andy or artwork team can read the bullets and give a help to do some artwork for each announcment 17:14:03 robjo: yes sir. In general, give me all you have - if I think it is too much for one article I will propose splitting up. 17:14:25 anditosan: +1000 on taking the lead on the cfp announce, btw :D 17:14:42 differentreality: and we're waiting for you in Berlin (except for during this christmas, we'll be in NL) 17:14:58 jospoortvliet: thanks :D 17:15:47 jospoortvliet, the logo was done by andres 17:15:58 jospoortvliet, svg already is on github at the conference-2014/Logo/ folder 17:16:03 with the good ideas from CarlosRibeiro :D 17:16:41 I think also that since we uploaded a lot of logo proposals, we will need to clean up git to only have the one that was chosen 17:17:40 yes, the logo evolved with CarlosRibeiro and anditosan inspiring eachother.. it's been very nice to watch 17:17:44 anditosan, our good ideas and discussions ;-) I just tried to be the bad guy pointing some comments to try to keep the openSUSE identity and country history 17:17:56 ;) 17:18:01 anditosan: it would be nice to have the proposals too in my opinion... maybe put "proposal_" inthe beginnig of filename? if that works for you ofc 17:18:14 differentreality: that is a good idea too 17:18:35 btw lucjiana helped a lot with the logo too ;-) 17:18:36 just to have some differences, but we don't want to turn git into a dump with every idea we've ever had 17:18:36 maybe the final logo to be used can say in the beginning "final_oSC14_logo" or sth like that 17:19:53 anditosan, +1 for keep clean the github 17:20:15 +1 17:20:19 are we still talking about cfp? 17:20:20 :D 17:20:23 also for rename and include the final word in the final approved artwork 17:20:33 keep clean everything :-) 17:21:36 well, announcements in general.. if henne were here I would ask about the website too 17:21:59 one more thing - promo materials for FOSDEM 17:22:02 i think last time he said he will be on it once we have sth to put in it, so... 17:22:09 SveborP: the web sit is in github, everyone is free to send pull requests ;) 17:22:10 anditosan, we can create two differente folders inside Conference-2014... one for working in progress and another for the final ones 17:22:25 and keep all proposals in the working in progress 17:22:44 (let's chat about this in the ml or later in irc) 17:22:44 robjo, yes, I just wanted to ask henne what exactly do we need to prepare to make a list 17:22:58 anf just move to the final named folder when the artwork was approved 17:23:09 can we not discuss the organization of the git hub artwork repo in the oSC meeting please? 17:23:47 robjo: +1 17:23:57 Moving on... 17:24:06 ok, so lets make a list what we need I think: 1st announcement, CfP announcement and FOSDEM materials 17:24:13 moving on 17:24:18 1st announcement we settled, CfP is settled, 17:24:31 FOSDEM - anything from last year to use as a draft? 17:24:35 YES! 17:24:41 the cubes / cube-like tux 17:24:44 cube 17:24:50 differentreality, yeahhh 17:25:04 cube- tux paper, 17:25:06 :D and we did some posters too (spread along the venue) - btw SveborP are you coming to fosdem ? 17:25:21 I am planning to, yes. 17:25:28 pretty easy and quickly to adapt to the oSC14 as we already decided the motto and logo ;-) 17:25:28 haven't booked a flight yet though 17:25:37 I do it 17:25:49 https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/blob/master/Marketing%20Materials/Events/openSUSE%20Conference/2013-oS-Conference/Folding%20Cube/Folding%20Cube%20oSC13.pdf?raw=true 17:26:06 https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork/blob/master/Marketing%20Materials/Events/openSUSE%20Conference/2013-oS-Conference/Folding%20Tux%20Paper/Folding%20Tux%20%20oSC13.png 17:26:38 Cool, added CarlosRibeiro to Trello 17:26:39 task 17:26:49 ...for FOSDEM 17:27:31 can a openSUSE beer bottle fit into that box? 17:27:41 what box? :/ 17:27:44 the cube? 17:27:46 yes 17:27:54 (is it a box?) :-D 17:28:04 perhapx... (but it is really made to be a cube, closed on all sides) 17:28:15 (but you kind of have to print, cut the paper and the glue the sides) 17:28:44 so you could leave one side open, but keep in mind that we cannot put that strong paper to the cubes... 17:29:10 first of all it will be unnecessarily expensive and secondly if paper is too thick, you cannot fold properly (specially the sides that need to be glued) 17:29:15 ok, never mind .. I guess I'm thinking about going for a beer after the meeting so I got a little carried away.. 17:29:18 (yes, I have a lot of cube training :P) 17:29:39 maybe a sticker 17:29:48 heh... the right question is if we have cleared all issues regarding the bottles with fosdem team and if we are gonna have opensuse beer at fosdem (and/or osc14) 17:29:50 on the bottle 17:30:06 or stickers in general.... SveborP do you have any offers to produce such materials? 17:30:21 during fosdem party .. I was thinking about to give a geeko money to ppl around 17:30:27 it is not only a matter of coming up with designs and ideas but also making the stuff (paying for it and getting it to fosdem) 17:30:37 CarlosRib_: for free? 17:30:38 I can get offers as soon as we have materials we want to produce 17:30:44 pretty inexpensive, funny and ppl could use geeko money to have a kind of discount in beer 17:30:55 we have a few companies that we work with occasionally 17:31:00 CarlosRib_: discount for which beer? :/ 17:31:17 we wil not have beer in openSUSE booth? 17:31:29 I don't know, don't make assumptions plz :P 17:31:32 I am merely asking 17:32:05 so ppl that get the geeko money during fosdem party, maybe could use the geeko money to have a kind of discount or promotion to buy a openSUSE beer during event in openSUSE booth 17:32:19 SveborP: there is probably not enough time to pre-pay for marketing stuff that will go to fosdem... So that's a tiny detail we need to address 17:32:43 maybe someone could buy two beers and with the geeko money get the 3rd one for free 17:33:06 You could hand out geeko money that is redeemable at oSC 17:33:12 CarlosRib_: sounds complicated to me, because beer party of fosdem... ppl get drunk. Geeko money we give against donation. Who keeps the geekomoney? Who keeps the real money ? 17:33:20 will be a nice and fun and inexpensive way to promote oSC14 during fosdem 17:33:32 robjo, I was just thinking the same thing 17:33:47 robjo, brillant idea 17:34:58 to give geeko money during fosdem and ppl that shows during oSC could be redeemable somehow 17:35:09 yes, but... ppl will have to pay to get geeko money or not? 17:35:18 because if during osc14 we count on ppl to have paid for the geeko money they use 17:35:28 buy a beer, get opensuse money with it 17:35:31 but instead they have geekomoney left from fosdem that they got from free... We need to know what is going on 17:36:00 differentreality: yes, we need to know what's going on 17:36:29 If we run through the numbers lets see what we get 17:36:36 how many people go to fosdem? 17:36:44 well, we can distribute geeko money freely to a certain amount 17:36:57 SveborP, +1 17:36:59 that will fit the budget that we decide on 17:37:09 after that is spent people will have to buy it 17:37:24 roughly 5000 ppl go to fosdem 17:37:44 but not these 5000 will came to oSC ;-) 17:38:01 obviously :) 17:38:15 why don't we just have geekomoney in our nice booth? 17:38:19 lets say 70% of those people show up at the openSUSE booth 17:38:53 have them play a game to win it 17:38:53 there is certainly someone at the booth responsible enough to collect money and give out geekomoney (and if not, I will just be around the corner at fosdem reg desk myself) 17:39:11 differentreality, i believe we can have in both situations, during fosdem party and also to have inside the booth 17:40:06 differentreality: I understand your concern, I think, that those that get "free" geeko money at Fosdem are not "equal" to those that have to pay at oSC 17:40:11 plus during beer event there might be misunderstandings (ppl thinking they can get beer at delirium with geekomoney?) don't know sounds complicated to me... maybe it is just me (I will be at the beer event for the record) 17:40:12 differentreality, dont you think we can have in both situations 17:40:21 but lets see how big of a hit we would take 17:40:31 robjo: ah... ok.... that we can do! 17:40:40 we know how many *free* geekomoney we gave away at fosdem 17:40:50 and so we know what to do at osc... 17:40:51 lets say we end up handing out 3500 geeko dollars at fosdem 17:41:18 robjo, geekollars :D 17:41:25 that's about 70% of the attendees 17:41:49 now lets say 1% of those show up at oSC 17:42:19 that would be 35 17:43:02 no difficult to handle, specially becuase not all of these 1% will remember to bring gekkollars to the conference 17:43:03 if we "buy" 1 free beer for those 35 we attracted from FOSDEM, I'm OK with that 17:43:19 i m cool with it too 17:43:25 at lease we remind then during announcments 17:43:50 yes yes yes 17:44:00 and geekomoney is relatively inexpensive to print 17:44:06 Thus I think handing out free geeko money at fosdem to promote oSC should be OK 17:45:01 and with this simple attitude we can help a lot to promote and do marketing (also looking fdor possible sponsors during FOSDEM) using geekollars 17:46:43 are we close to the end of the meeting? Coming up to 2 hours now 17:46:59 Ok, added to Trello. Where do we print it? I can ask locally. 17:47:12 but this time if we use, we must print on green paper not gray one ;-) looks more fun in green than in gray 17:47:20 anditosan, I think we are 17:47:31 last year someone from sus ewas kind enough to take care of that and just get it to us 17:47:44 that would be very nice 17:47:55 |miska|: ? jospoortvliet ? 17:48:04 who handled fosdem stuff last year? and who does this year? 17:48:33 differentreality: not sure, the ML has a mail from richard looking for a new volunteer. I believe Bruno tigerfoot stepped up 17:48:38 I have to go, folk, sorry 17:48:39 SveborP: probably best if you can find a local (to fosdem) print shop. Paper is relatively heavy to shlep/ship around 17:48:48 have a nice day and please - mail the results of this meeting to the ML!!! 17:48:51 don't forget that! 17:49:31 robjo: absolutely right on that account. But also - we in Nue are going to be printing stuff, SveborP - send me a mail about this, please. I can probably ensure some of those flyers get printed and brought to FOSDEM :D 17:49:49 jospoortvliet, thanks 17:49:56 I'm involbed in the Fosdem thing, 17:50:08 SveborP, in the same corner as we stayed last year have a print store if Iḿ righ.. at maximum 2 block aways from the hotel I have sure 17:50:15 acting as coordinatoor, but need lots of volunteers :-) 17:50:26 Yes, if stuff gets brought from NUE to FOSDEM, piggy backing on that is the best approach ;) 17:50:59 tigerfoot, can you coordinate the printing too? if jospoortvliet won't be able to bring all the stuff we send? 17:51:00 I'd say that part needs to move to the ML 17:51:04 jospoortvliet: SveborP thanks to taking care of getting the stuff printed so we can spread it out at Fosdemd 17:51:18 SveborP: put him in CC when you mail me :D 17:51:26 ok :-) 17:51:32 SveborP: in last resort I've some backup plans to get things printed, but then I need to use the Geeko car .-) 17:51:37 I think we should really talk to the specific person in charge of the material to fosdem to avoid any problems (that or jos...) 17:51:48 who is here from openSUSE team at suse ? 17:51:54 differentreality, I quite believe Richard have handle fosdem last year 17:52:06 not the stuff from NUE office though 17:52:18 differentreality: the person in charge is several, but count on Ilmehtar to kick ass and cwh at Nue 17:52:36 haha I can do that :P 17:52:41 but they don't have a bus or whatever for the moment :-) 17:53:13 it's chaos organization, but well they have done that for the last 4 years :-) so I believe it will work ... 17:53:25 ah right... 17:53:27 OK, so we have cubes and geeko money 17:53:29 that's also aproblem... 17:53:44 I need a big flag too, the logo is nice .. 17:53:51 SveborP, + tux paper 17:54:21 and tux paper. so, we produce the artwork, mail jospoortvliet and tigerfoot and it's done :-D 17:54:28 and we'll solve problems as we go 17:54:29 SveborP, oSC14 promo Cube, Tux Paper and Geeko money 17:54:40 and poster ? 17:54:41 I think we should have a reasonably sized poster advertizing oSC at FOSDEM as well 17:55:05 I can take care of this artwork 17:55:12 with 30 euro I can take care of the standing banner 17:55:19 (after I get the artwork that is) 17:55:34 ok, added the checklist to trello 17:55:43 standing banner +1 at that price 17:55:54 differentreality: Kostas will come I suppose ? so put the standing banner in his bag :-) 17:55:59 or trousers 17:56:04 :-) 17:56:09 (note this is only for printing... I will bring the mechanism I have, which I will take back afterwards) 17:56:15 tigerfoot: unfortunately not 17:56:36 other greeks will 17:56:55 are we done with oSC items? 17:57:01 we are 17:57:20 next meeting is in January, it is already on the openSUSE calendar. 17:57:28 Enjoy the holidays everyone 17:57:30 any volunteers to write a report of the meeting to ML? :-) 17:57:37 #endmeeting