15:04:00 #startmeeting openSUSE Project meeting 15:04:00 Meeting started Wed Oct 30 15:04:00 2013 UTC. The chair is vuntz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:26 so I wonder how many people will get confused because of the time change too :/ 15:04:31 robjo is here 15:04:42 Ilmehtar, FunkyPenguin: ping? 15:04:44 anybody else here? 15:04:56 I'm here too for the meeting 15:04:59 I think Ilmehtar is moving today 15:05:35 I'm sure he moves a little bit every day 15:06:21 okay, so let's start 15:06:30 #topic action items review 15:06:41 Ilmehtar to keep pushing on the reimbursement of local materials 15:07:15 jospoortvliet: do you know if there was some change for this? 15:07:39 I think agustin was already looking into that, but I'll talk with him 15:07:47 that is waiting on a response from toscalix_ AFAIK 15:08:51 toscalix_: do you have any news? 15:09:25 I have evaluated this withi SUSE to see the internal effort required to deliver: decision process and the reimbursement itself. There is budget so that is not the problem 15:10:12 The truth is that we are not conviced we can handle both, the process of collecting request, process them and also the administration related with the reimbursement 15:10:34 Based on the current and expected workload of the TSP, we do not think it is a good option either 15:11:12 so I would like to discuss this with Vincent first 15:11:16 Well, somehow it worked for at least a couple of years before the initiative was discontinued 15:11:18 before making a proposal 15:11:28 robjo: based on the TSP work 15:11:48 and a little number of request due to having shipments of material by default 15:12:15 the TSP has less people and more work due to the increase of budget assigned to them. This also affect our administratives 15:12:48 and jos and myself can sustain an eeffort on this just in certain months 15:13:14 for instance, we would not be able to deliver the weeks before the oSC14, and the weeks after 15:13:19 just an example 15:13:56 if we put something like this, we should make sure it delivers properly 15:14:00 has any has anyone asked teh TSP if they are willing to handle this or was the decision made that they cannot handle if based on some wild assumptions? 15:14:44 unfortunately Izabel is not here ATM 15:15:01 My initial idea would be having an equivalent of TSP for marketing in general, not just this action. We would use this action to put the team together. and then, when the material arrives in early 2014, this group would also take care of the decisions around the distribution to events 15:15:24 toscalix_: it might be good to have you discuss this with Ilmehtar next week (I would expect him to be more knowledgeable than I am on this topic, and he'll be in NUE) 15:15:40 robjo: the workload of the TSP is too high ATM and it will increase in Feb with the oSC14 15:16:07 toscalix_: is that your opinion or a statement from the TSP team? 15:16:34 vuntz: I am open to discuss options on this. We want to solve it because it has been something that we should have solved months ago, but there are difficulties to face 15:16:49 robjo: that is a statement from our side 15:17:05 based on the experience of working everyday with the TSP 15:17:32 I am not speaking on behalf of the TSP 15:17:34 toscalix_: OK, you have to stop making decisions for other people and let people decide for themselves what they can and cannot handle 15:18:11 robjo: is not my decision....it is my point of view 15:18:28 the TSP is an autonomous group 15:18:32 I think it makes sense to let the TSP decide if the TSP can handle this or not... 15:18:55 jospoortvliet: do you want to check with the TSP? 15:19:02 vuntz: sure 15:19:03 toscalix_: you just said that you would not let the process go through the TSP because their workload is too high, sounds like a decision to me 15:19:11 jospoortvliet: cool, thanks 15:19:31 vuntz: I'll ask Izabel if she's willing to handle the requests for local material production 15:19:34 robjo: sound like a formed opinion based on working with beimbursements every day 15:19:44 reimbursements 15:19:45 toscalix_: I'll also add an action item to have you discuss this face-to-face with Ilmehtar next week (or with me the week after) 15:20:05 vuntz: fine 15:20:13 #action jospoortvliet to check with TSP about ability to deal with reimbursement of local materials 15:20:46 got to run, FLOSS Weekly show, hopefully we can drum up some more Summit attendees. Later 15:20:48 #action toscalix_ to discuss reimbursement of local materials with Ilmehtar and/or vuntz 15:20:57 robjo: thanks 15:21:05 next action item was: 15:21:07 Everyone please think of stuff to add to the pages jospoortvliet pointed out, this is important to the release and it's quality 15:21:16 jospoortvliet: I guess this is still valid, right? :-) 15:23:11 absolutely 15:24:01 jospoortvliet: any specific area where help is more needed? 15:24:49 screenshots!!! 15:25:01 https://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots_13.1 15:25:08 has mostly 12.3 screenshots... 15:25:13 they need to be replaced 15:25:35 and ideally following the guidelines - don't upload generic names but append "$DESKTOP_$RELEASE" please 15:25:39 * jospoortvliet has to go too, sry 15:25:41 #action Everyone help with documenting new features and providing screenshots for the release, this is important to the release and its quality 15:25:46 jospoortvliet: thanks! 15:26:11 #topic Create a new Project 'Application:ERP' 15:26:17 so we have this only topic 15:26:26 Vuntz: sorry I'm not here, in France on E44 heading to Germany 15:26:35 Ilmehtar: heh 15:27:10 Application:ERP was discussed on the list and there's https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847342 15:27:14 openSUSE bug 847342 in openSUSE.org (OBS Request) "Create Project Application:ERP" [Enhancement,New] 15:28:43 does anybody have a strong opinion on this? 15:28:51 * vuntz feels it's up to OBS admins in the end 15:30:03 no other opinion, it seems 15:30:21 I guess the bug more or less covers it anyway 15:30:29 looks like that, yes 15:30:33 vuntz, sorry I just came in only saw opinion on this, what is this? 15:30:53 Create a new Project 'Application:ERP' in OBS 15:31:57 okay, so we'll leave it tracked on the bug 15:32:06 #info bug already filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847342 15:32:09 openSUSE bug 847342 in openSUSE.org (OBS Request) "Create Project Application:ERP" [Enhancement,New] 15:32:12 #info nobody with any objection 15:32:22 #topic any other topic? 15:32:30 anything else people would like to cover? 15:32:30 I must go. antlarr will report internally about what is required from our side. Jos is also here. Thanks. 15:32:40 Bye 15:33:05 toscalix_: see you 15:33:06 bye toscalix_ 15:33:30 no other topic? 15:33:34 this is your last chance 15:34:37 okay, then we're done :-) 15:34:40 thanks all! 15:34:42 #endmeeting