15:04:20 #startmeeting project meeting 15:04:20 Meeting started Wed May 1 15:04:20 2013 UTC. The chair is robjo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:57 Hi everyone, welcome to the project meeting 15:05:31 The agenda can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting 15:06:20 roll call for the board: FunkyPenguin, Ilmehtar, 15:06:32 * Ilmehtar is here 15:07:09 vuntz: ping 15:07:20 robjo: im somehwat here 15:07:36 Lets get rolling 15:08:25 AFAIK there was no meeting last time and I do not recall any action items from the meeting prior 15:08:46 thus we can get right to the next item GSoC 15:08:55 #topic GSoC 15:09:11 saurabhsood91: manugupt1 ping 15:09:22 I am here 15:09:34 manugupt1: update on GSoC? 15:10:02 robjo: Everything is going smooth I believe, proposals are pouring in but not for all of the ideas I guess 15:10:10 robjo: here... 15:10:31 I think it should be a healthy mixture of openSUSE, Hedgewars and ownCloud this time. 15:10:48 manugupt1: all mentor's have registered right? 15:10:52 saurabhsood91: I think so 15:11:02 I am not sure, cannot you see the name of the mentors? 15:11:36 One question I had was 15:12:02 I have noticed that students from same institurions have similar ideas to my proposal, how do I go about it 15:12:41 Is it plagiarism or ideas taken during discussion or anythinng like that 15:13:18 How do I identify who is a more prospective student in that case 15:13:21 what are Google's rules on it? do all GSoC projects need to be original ideas? 15:13:35 Ilmehtar: Nothing like that.. GSoC leaves the discretion to mentors 15:13:39 and org admins 15:13:54 There is probably no way for you to find out 15:14:11 manugupt1: I wouldn't call it plagiarism (unless it is very obvious copy&paste, of course) 15:14:21 cboltz: Well Idea is copy and paste 15:14:32 in atleast one of the proposal 15:15:02 You may just have to have an e-mail or IRC conversation with each student and then go with your gut-feel 15:15:24 ok. 15:16:03 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/aatif1992/1#c1001 15:16:03 when is our next deadline? 15:16:11 One more thing, if students do not submit their proposals on mmelange they are not eligible for gsoc 3rd May 15:16:22 has a private comment asking for the mentor - but AFAIK private comments are not visible to the students 15:16:36 I doubt this was intentional... 15:16:51 cboltz: This was no :/ 15:17:12 manugupt1: saurabhsood91 could you update the wiki and in bold letters add the May 3rd deadline? 15:17:28 However the proposal is of no good quality and no mentor, I would like to ask the mentors here, can I mark it as invalid 15:17:41 robjo: will do that 15:18:22 koda: by the way you are on gsoc-mentor@opensuse.org right? 15:18:40 gsoc-mentors* 15:18:41 manugupt1: I agree - the idea sounds "a bit"[tm] crazy and isn't really well-defined, so I'm fine with the "invalid" mark 15:18:46 i think not, i'm on official google MLs though 15:18:46 manugupt1: two such proposals right? 15:19:00 saurabhsood91: I dont think so 15:19:15 koda: You can subscribe it there.. no spam I assure you 15:19:44 thats it from my side.. 15:19:57 there = where? 15:20:02 koda: on the mailing list 15:20:12 I'd guess gsoc-mentor+subscribe@opensuse.org ;-) 15:20:26 :) 15:20:38 saurabhsood91: Ah.. I know about the second one you are talking about 15:20:53 This is a different proposal 15:20:57 And a very good one 15:21:00 We can mark them as invalid I think 15:21:02 I believe but it has no mentor 15:21:09 Oh... Ok 15:21:19 (and I'm also just subscribing - I'm in concact with a student that is willing to write new AppArmor profile development tools) 15:21:22 I may not have checked that one 15:21:26 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/nuk/1 15:21:45 I will check it as soon as I get back 15:21:49 thx :p 15:21:49 Or were you talking about this one http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/olkordy/9001 ? 15:21:54 GRUB 15:22:41 I think 2nd one can also be ignored as it was discussed in ML and the idea was already there I believe 15:23:04 ownCloud mentors started to review and score proposals 15:23:17 zimba12: Yes.. we can also start that I guess 15:23:32 cool 15:23:51 so far everything smooth 15:24:02 zimba12: I hope it remains that way :) 15:24:22 so far so good... 15:24:24 Thats it from our side I guess 15:24:39 We can move to the next topic if we have no questions 15:24:59 a question about reviewing the proposals: 15:25:04 cboltz: yes 15:25:21 should every mentor review all proposals (even on topics not in his "area")? 15:25:24 manugupt1: saurabhsood91 when you get a chance can you look at my status, while I am a mentor, supposedly in the system, I cannot see any of the proposals you linked.... 15:25:29 or just the proposals he's going to mentor? 15:26:14 cboltz: I think it will be difficult to mentor each and everyone. So a mentor can review only his and ask for help in case he needs some. 15:26:28 from other mentors 15:26:41 robjo: I will see that 15:26:57 robjo: will check it out 15:27:46 zimba12: koda does that sound good to you guys? 15:28:23 it appears to me that all mentors should at least briefly review all proposals and then score them 15:28:42 manugupt1: I don't feel like I could review a proposal outside owncloud 15:29:32 yeah maybe the review of other proposals could be left optional 15:30:15 One question I had was suppose openSUSE guys reviewed ownCloud / hedgewars proposal, is that a problem, as robjo said he might want to review and score 15:30:22 some others might feel so too 15:30:42 How about owncloud all owncloud mentor's score all owncloud projects and so on? 15:31:07 saurabhsood91: Lets not complicate it... i think it should be optional 15:31:24 Ok... 15:31:55 what I meant was that all openSUSE mentors should review all openSUSE proposals 15:31:58 i think mentors should review and score whatever they feel comfortable with, that's it 15:32:31 it it not reasonable to expect other orgs to review our proposals or that openSUSE mentors would review ownCloud proposals 15:33:08 robjo: indeed 15:33:15 that was what I meant too... 15:33:37 * manugupt1 got confused I guess then 15:34:54 manugupt1: it's easy, let's do what suggested by gsoc itself and what other orgs do. If the mentor feels confident to review, he should, otherwise not 15:35:04 +1 to zimba12 15:35:12 I agree with zimba12 15:35:30 +1 15:36:16 Any other thing to be discussed 15:38:23 robjo: We are done I guess 15:39:08 OK 15:39:36 #topic new ideas 15:40:05 Anything? 15:40:48 robjo: I would like to discuss the possibilit oSC14 15:40:56 in India 15:41:00 #topic anything else 15:41:25 We have a plausible location and some volunteers, but we are not sure about sponsorship 15:42:20 manugupt1: hmmm, at this point the guidelines state "A location in Europe" 15:42:48 this can of course be changed, but possibly will require a lengthy discussion 15:43:43 robjo: Hmm.. yeah 15:43:45 however, if you have a place and volunteers I would encourage you to send a proposal to the board list 15:44:08 robjo: The openSUSE Conference is located in Europe missed that 15:44:10 robjo: Will do that 15:44:25 Another option may be to have a "openSUSE Summit Asia" 15:44:46 robjo: oSC 13 because that would garner more help for us 15:44:57 and we will need it... 15:45:06 And yes people are enthusiastic about it too 15:45:58 robjo: will send the board a mail 15:46:15 thats it.. I guess 15:46:23 manugupt1: thanks, you will get help for organizing a Summit as well 15:46:41 Any other topics? 15:47:27 OK, that's it then 15:47:39 #info 2.5 board members present 15:48:01 Lol 15:48:04 thanks everyone for participating 15:48:12 #endmeeting