18:04:09 <mrdocs> #startmeeting 18:04:10 <bugbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 22 18:04:09 2012 UTC. The chair is mrdocs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:04:10 <bugbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:04:51 * jospoortvliet hugs dragotin 18:04:58 <jospoortvliet> cool to see you're here! 18:05:06 <dragotin> buaha 18:05:19 <mrdocs> #chairs AlanClark yaloki wstephenson FunkyPenguin mrdocs 18:05:26 <dragotin> jospoortvliet: I am always her.e I kind of live here. 18:05:32 <dragotin> ...kind of 18:05:33 <jospoortvliet> lol 18:05:55 <wstephenson> jospoortvliet: are you still in the office? 18:06:00 <suseROCKs> !seen dragotin 18:06:00 <SUSEhelp> suseROCKs: dragotin said "...kind of" in #opensuse-project at Wed Feb 22 18:05:35 GMT 2012. 18:06:29 <dragotin> suseROCKs: whats that magic? 18:06:41 <suseROCKs> Abracadabra 18:06:43 <jospoortvliet> wstephenson: yes 18:07:29 <wstephenson> dragotin: we're all in bed together, i'm not alone. anna has a temp of 39 degrees and had to come home from nursery, so mrs bille graciously left work early so i could continue at the meeting. 18:07:42 <dragotin> wow 18:07:59 <dragotin> wstephenson: viruses are everywhere currently. 18:08:23 <dragotin> wstephenson: I feel with you 18:08:26 <wstephenson> i know, i am having to stay home to look after her about once a week all this month 18:08:30 <izabelvalverde> wstephenson I hope she get better soon 18:08:40 <suseROCKs> sounds dangerous in NUE this week. wstephenson sick, henne injured, and jospoortvliet just simply being there... 18:08:44 <dragotin> its the hate february 18:08:45 <wstephenson> there is a small patch of sick in the middle of the bed here. it's such a picture of family bliss. 18:08:51 <yaloki> o/ 18:08:53 <AlanClark> we finally have the advantage on henne - he can only type with one hand 18:08:56 <mrdocs> #chair AlanClark yaloki wstephenson FunkyPenguin mrdocs 18:08:56 <bugbot> Current chairs: AlanClark FunkyPenguin mrdocs wstephenson yaloki 18:09:03 <mrdocs> #chair AlanClark yaloki wstephenson FunkyPenguin mrdocs henne 18:09:03 <bugbot> Current chairs: AlanClark FunkyPenguin henne mrdocs wstephenson yaloki 18:09:13 <wstephenson> henne: did you find somewhere to eat? i thought hunger & durst might be nice 18:09:18 <dragotin> henne was working on his nose again? I did not allow that while I was there... 18:09:19 <wstephenson> if ppl haven't been there before 18:10:11 <yaloki> alright, apparently I'm the moderator today :) 18:10:33 * mrdocs hands the baton to yaloki 18:10:44 <yaloki> ok, there are two items on the agenda: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting 18:10:45 <jospoortvliet> yaloki: which apparently means meaningless talk... please be our master! spank us! 18:10:47 * jospoortvliet hides 18:11:23 <izabelvalverde> I added the topics :) 18:11:30 <yaloki> and AlanClark just added a third one which we discussed today during the board face to face meeting 18:11:36 <wstephenson> yaloki: do you want to present our meeting reboot plan first? 18:11:39 <izabelvalverde> one just because Jos spread all around 18:11:47 <yaloki> okay, let's start with that one 18:11:59 <yaloki> #topic Project meeting timing 18:12:21 <yaloki> okay, so we decided to shift the project+board IRC meeting to 20:00 UTC 18:12:29 <yaloki> and with a duration of maximum one hour 18:12:38 <mrdocs> +1 for me 18:12:43 <jospoortvliet> if it takes longer you do WHAT exactly? 18:12:52 <yaloki> we'll try to prioritize items in order to do some first, and if there is overflow, it's for the next meeting or through the mailing-list 18:12:57 <jospoortvliet> ok 18:13:03 <jospoortvliet> well fine with me 18:13:10 <yaloki> we believe that we need some serious timeboxing in order to not put people off wrt participating here 18:13:20 <yaloki> alright 18:13:24 <wstephenson> background being, project meeting rumbles on too long, and later is better for those with kids and those in the americas 18:13:34 <manugupt1> Hey I mean but not good for asians 18:13:39 <yaloki> yes, and we will try hard for the discussion to stay focused 18:13:57 <yaloki> manugupt1: yes, but there is no solution to that, if you have a proposal, please send on the project list 18:14:01 <manugupt1> It was already pretty late for me and it will be even more late 18:14:06 <wstephenson> manugupt1: swings and roundabouts. recruit more asians and we'll have to go the other way :) 18:14:07 <mrdocs> what time is it there now ? 18:14:16 <manugupt1> I would suggest the current timing is good 18:14:20 <robjo> Then people need to show up 10 minutes early to get the customary chit-chat out of the way ;) 18:14:20 <yaloki> yep, well, that's the drawback of using IRC for meetings, it'll never be perfect for everyone 18:14:22 <manugupt1> 2345 18:14:29 <yaloki> manugupt1: current timing doesn't work well for most board members 18:14:33 <jospoortvliet> robjo: +1 hehehe 18:14:40 <wstephenson> manugupt1: look at it this way, if it is only 1 hour long then it will occupy the second hour of the previous marathon meetings. 18:14:52 <jospoortvliet> wstephenson: lol 18:15:00 <yaloki> #topic openSUSE Conference 18:15:04 <mrdocs> a vote ? 18:15:04 <manugupt1> wstephenson: Its too late for me.. Its 0100 hours anyways 18:15:10 <yaloki> mrdocs: nope 18:15:15 <mrdocs> NP :) 18:15:29 <yaloki> I think izabelvalverde added the item about the openSUSE Conference 18:15:37 <mrdocs> izabelvalverde: ^^ 18:15:38 <yaloki> and I assume it relates to the one in europe/prague :) 18:15:40 * wstephenson sends manugupt1 some coffee 18:15:51 <yaloki> I also assume it is in order to get a status update :) 18:15:55 <izabelvalverde> yaloki exactly 18:16:17 * yaloki hands the stage to AlanClark 18:16:31 <AlanClark> I can give some update to the venue search. If Pavol is here he could provide update on the program and other planning 18:16:40 <yaloki> prusnak: *prod* 18:16:53 <prusnak> here 18:17:14 <izabelvalverde_> ops sorry! 18:17:21 <AlanClark> We sent our an RFP to the locations that Paval suggested in the wiki 18:17:27 <saurabhsood91> 2300 UTC will be very late here o.O 18:17:40 <manugupt1> more asians I guess 18:18:07 <wstephenson> saurabhsood91: 2000UTC 18:18:11 <AlanClark> I have a big detailed email from Michael detailing the responses from those venues 18:18:32 <AlanClark> I haven't had time to go through the details yet 18:18:33 <AlanClark> but 18:18:35 <saurabhsood91> oops. my bad. still late :( 18:19:05 * AlanClark goes to look up the venue names 18:19:34 <robjo> AlanClark: prusnak Can you commit to a date when you will have this nailed down? 18:19:35 <izabelvalverde_> do we have dates? 18:19:45 <FunkyPenguin> that depends on venue availability 18:20:01 <AlanClark> 2 of the venues are not available 18:20:02 <izabelvalverde_> thanks 18:20:18 <prusnak> robjo: if by "this" you mean venue, then it's being taken care of by alan and michael 18:20:19 <AlanClark> 2 of the venues do not exactly fit the requirements that we are looking for 18:20:48 <AlanClark> so we are going to have to make a decision on either less room or no beer 18:20:56 <mrdocs> lol 18:20:58 <robjo> prusnak: OK, yes "this" == dates & venue 18:21:22 <robjo> np, less space more beer 18:21:49 <yaloki> let's hope for good weather and lots of space around the venue, outside :) 18:22:02 <AlanClark> I believe the next step is for me to review with prusnak the venues 18:22:07 <suseROCKs> pardon ... what's the impact of beer availability about? 18:22:07 <izabelvalverde_> many talks happening at the same time was one of the complains 18:22:41 <prusnak> AlanClark: yes, i would like to see the response from the venues 18:24:31 <AlanClark> prusnak - I'm traveling the rest this week. let's get together on Monday. 18:24:49 <robjo> But what does it all mean? Will the venue search drag out another couple of month or are we getting closer to getting it nailed down and announcing the time and place? 18:25:29 <prusnak> AlanClark: could you please send me an email soon so i can be prepared to discuss on monday? 18:25:44 <AlanClark> prusnak: yes am forwarding now 18:26:00 <prusnak> thanks 18:26:09 <yaloki> robjo: shouldn't be the case, as we're pretty much left with a single option right now 18:26:11 <AlanClark> I'll also try to update the wiki so that everyone can see the updated data 18:26:21 <yaloki> robjo: now, if that simply won't work, well, then.. 18:27:04 <robjo> Everything just appears so vague one has to wonder if we'll ever get there 18:27:56 <suseROCKs> robjo, In their defense, they're acting much earlier in time-frame than we did last year for oSC2011... 18:27:56 <yaloki> prusnak: would you be able to check out the location ? 18:28:19 <prusnak> sure 18:28:27 <prusnak> i've been to most of them before already 18:28:36 <yaloki> well if it's fine by prusnak, then we can go on with the contract 18:28:37 <yaloki> okay 18:28:48 <AlanClark> robjo I understand and would like to see us get the venue settle as well. I also think we can push ahead with other planning. 18:28:50 <yaloki> I'm sure prusnak knows what kind of configuration would work and what wouldn't :) 18:29:23 <AlanClark> we need to get the program committee and others formed. we could be doing that now 18:29:34 <jospoortvliet> and artwork :D 18:29:37 <yaloki> true, indeed 18:29:58 <jospoortvliet> after having seen the awesome stuff anditosan did for the openSUSE Summit, I want him to do the oSC - I made something but it ain't very good :D 18:30:37 <yaloki> okay, does anyone feel like owning that topic, to make a call for a conference program committee ? 18:31:00 <prusnak> i'll do it 18:31:06 <robjo> Well, we also need to argue about a theme/motto etc. all of this takes time. Of course the theme argument could start now as well. 18:31:06 <yaloki> purrfect 18:31:06 <wstephenson> good man 18:31:11 <mrdocs> \o/ 18:31:32 <yaloki> #action prusnak call out for a conference program team 18:31:32 <prusnak> i guess i'll talk to henne about cfp@opensuse.org 18:31:44 <yaloki> :) 18:31:45 <prusnak> and we can use that email for coordinating stuff 18:31:49 <yaloki> #topic openSUSE Travel Support Program 18:31:51 <robjo> prusnak: I'll help with the program 18:31:52 <prusnak> or do we have something better? 18:32:05 <jospoortvliet> robjo: I'd say the program committee can set the theme, it's their thing :D 18:32:29 <yaloki> conference@o.o 18:32:31 <yaloki> anyway, next topic 18:32:35 <robjo> how will "overload" of cfp list work for the summit and osc? 18:32:46 <wstephenson> robjo: not sure i understand 18:32:49 <yaloki> ah, henne's other hand says it's opensuse-conference@o.o 18:32:51 <henne> Opensuse-conference 18:32:52 <jospoortvliet> robjo: imho shouldn't be a huge issue. If it turns out to be confusing, we create a new list :D 18:32:56 <yaloki> #topic openSUSE Conference 18:33:05 <jospoortvliet> imho 18:33:18 <yaloki> 3 18:33:19 <yaloki> 2 18:33:19 <robjo> no more lists ;) 18:33:22 <yaloki> 1 18:33:24 <yaloki> next topic 18:33:33 <yaloki> pavol can organize a kick off meeting etc 18:33:36 <yaloki> #topic openSUSE Travel Support Program 18:33:41 <robjo> Are we on the 1 hour schedule already for today? 18:33:47 <yaloki> izabelvalverde_: did you add it to give a status update ? 18:33:47 <mrdocs> we're trying :) 18:33:53 <yaloki> robjo: I'll make sure, yes :) 18:34:10 <yaloki> I'm hungry. Hence, yes. :D 18:34:26 <jospoortvliet> yaloki: +1 me too 18:34:33 <jospoortvliet> izabelvalverde_: yours. How do you feel it is going? 18:34:39 * manugupt1 thinks the whole world is hungry 18:34:49 * suseROCKs is thirsty 18:34:59 <yaloki> on topic 18:35:05 <yaloki> or I kick :) 18:35:11 <mrdocs> i poked her via skype 18:35:26 <mrdocs> she was on just a couple of mins ago 18:35:39 <yaloki> let's give her a few more seconds or we'll move it to the next meeting 18:35:48 <manugupt1> While she comes can we move on to gsoc update 18:35:51 <mrdocs> or do it later on 18:35:54 <manugupt1> That saves time 18:36:07 <yaloki> okay, last time 18:36:17 <yaloki> from the next meeting on, if it's not on the agenda, it won't be in the meeting :) 18:36:20 <yaloki> #topic gsoc update 18:36:39 <yaloki> manugupt1: go ahead, manu 18:36:43 <manugupt1> Ok.. GSoC applications will start next weeks 18:36:55 <manugupt1> so we really need ideas, and mentors 18:37:13 <manugupt1> This is a call and by the way I think ownCloud will particpate in gsoc along with us 18:37:24 <manugupt1> Also I had a question about the money that we get from gsoc 18:37:33 <manugupt1> Which is a lot imo, what do we do about it? 18:37:42 <manugupt1> Its 500usd per project 18:37:49 <AlanClark> manugupt1: we can do the money same as last year 18:37:54 <suseROCKs> didn't we use it to help fund oSC travel last year? 18:37:59 <manugupt1> suseROCKs: No 18:38:12 <yaloki> manugupt1: how do you mean, "owncloud will participate in gsoc along with us" ? 18:38:14 <manugupt1> It was given to Google 18:38:24 <manugupt1> yaloki: I asked frank for ideas and he said he will mentor 18:38:24 <yaloki> manugupt1: nope 18:38:26 <AlanClark> manugupt1: no it wasn't 18:38:41 * manugupt1 did not know that 18:38:48 <AlanClark> manugupt1: we collected the monies from Google. 2k went to the mentors to reimburse their travel 18:39:00 <AlanClark> The rest of the monies were applied to osc travel 18:39:08 <AlanClark> and osc costs 18:39:14 <jospoortvliet> manugupt1: link to gsoc ideas page pls :D 18:39:15 <manugupt1> AlanClark: thanks so we can do that I guess again 18:39:23 <manugupt1> jospoortvliet: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_2012_Ideas#GSOC_2012_Idea_list 18:39:26 <AlanClark> so you need to work with me so that we can get signed up to collect the funds 18:39:40 <manugupt1> Please people start pinging again 18:39:45 <manugupt1> AlanClark: sure 18:39:52 <manugupt1> Thats it for me 18:39:56 <yaloki> okay, thank you 18:40:02 <yaloki> #topic openSUSE Travel Support Program 18:40:08 <yaloki> izabelvalverde_: you're here? :) 18:40:33 <yaloki> 3 18:40:33 <robjo> next 18:40:35 <yaloki> 2 18:40:37 <yaloki> 1 18:40:42 <yaloki> #endmeeting