12:01:42 #startmeeting 12:01:42 Meeting started Wed Nov 3 12:01:42 2010 UTC. The chair is henne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:01:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:01:49 #meetingtopic Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 12:01:53 Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 12:01:58 This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. 12:02:13 The topics for this meeting are: 12:02:34 1. Old Action Items 12:02:34 2. Status Reports 12:02:34 3. Conference Feedback Round 12:02:34 4. Questions & Answers 12:02:42 let's roll 12:03:05 #topic Old Action Items 12:03:21 you can find them in bugzilla using this link http://bit.ly/opensuse_action_items 12:03:43 the only running one is the one about the indian students 12:03:53 bug #634456 12:03:53 openSUSE bug 634456 in openSUSE.org (Action Items) "[AI] Indian students working on openSUSE" [Normal,Assigned] https://bugzilla.novell.com/634456 12:04:09 michl: whats the status here? 12:04:43 henne: michl is not at his desk right now ;-( 12:04:52 abmahnung! 12:05:08 henne: he did some work on moving this forward 12:05:09 do you know any details about this? 12:05:32 henne: dragotin and michl did this together AFAIR 12:05:37 Can I ask something about this Just curious 12:05:43 manugupt1: Yes, go ahead! 12:06:03 dragotin: whats the progress? :) 12:06:11 AJaeger, henne I am from India so students from december have a 6 month project 12:06:42 manugupt1: this is not about general students but some special thing :) 12:06:50 maybe you can send some letters to selected colleges to take up projects for openSUSE I understand we will need a mechanism 12:06:59 henne, Engineering students who code 12:07:01 manugupt1: Novell India wants to bring some of those Indian students to learn about open source and open suse 12:07:07 I am speaking about them 12:07:12 * AJaeger misspelled openSUSE ;-( 12:07:59 humpf 12:08:00 I understand that sending letters might just help something 12:08:19 manugupt1: Yes, our colleagues take care of talking to the colleges. The part here is offering anybody an easy way to contribute - incl. these students 12:08:20 The status is "its ongoing" I would say 12:08:20 manugupt1: there is already contact established 12:08:41 henne, My college is nt there so no visibility :( 12:08:45 dragotin: yes that we know. but what is going on ongoing? :) 12:09:12 the indian collegues are teaching a team in india to teach students openSUSE AFAIK 12:09:31 furthermore, we need to take care on documentation for newcomers 12:09:39 which we have to do anyway 12:10:07 Some more action items are ongoing, such as opening/documenting QA and stuff 12:10:12 we have that partly done 12:10:15 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Junior_jobs 12:10:24 okay so what the status with QA then? 12:10:41 <- no idea, michl could have details 12:10:46 okkay 12:11:26 if nobody knows shit, next topic then :) 12:11:35 #topic Status Reports 12:11:52 Teams and individuals send various status reports around. Coolo sends one for the distribution, the OBS team publishes meeting minutes, the boosters their "What are the boosters up to" blogposts, the board has a public meeting and so on and so on. 12:11:55 I actually *knew* stuff 12:12:01 Are there any questions regarding those or do we need to discuss anything in detail? 12:13:06 not? 12:13:46 #topic Conference Feedback Round 12:14:06 jos started to collect feedback for the conference 12:14:29 so far i saw some minor details and a discussion about the venue 12:14:49 right 12:15:25 the main points against the venue were that its too far outside 12:15:28 of the city 12:16:11 in the city, there are no venues with attached hotel in a reasonable price category 12:16:23 Hilton is there of course, but well... 12:16:32 are you sure? 12:16:43 henne: how could I ever be sure? 12:16:55 i mean the hotel doesnt have to be _attached_ 12:17:03 it just has to be near the tthing 12:17:21 thats true but still the rate of 45 Euro for a good room is hard to beat downtown 12:17:22 <_Marcus_> bunk beds in our lower park deck at the office? 12:17:37 but anyway, I would vote to investigate again. 12:17:40 thats for sure 12:17:52 yeah i think we should 12:18:20 i would also like to investigate the idea of a more practical programm 12:18:24 but I doubt it will be easy to beat that 12:18:41 henne: elaborate 12:18:43 for instance equip the 2 smaller rooms with machines 12:18:47 dragotin: why is there a discussion about hotel prizes in NUE? 12:18:53 so people can do hands-on stuff 12:19:20 and have only one track with talks 12:19:33 henne: machines aren't that important, more the space I guess 12:19:41 as people carry notebooks anyway 12:20:05 and again: I agree 12:21:06 anyone else with any feedback? :) 12:21:51 thanks a lot for shuttle ;) 12:22:07 yeah that was great 12:22:48 * dragotin still found the venue ok 12:23:15 morning 12:23:20 the presentation rooms are good 12:23:22 dragotin: its to small for us 12:23:31 to small? 12:24:01 henne yes, we can need 2-3 such from the smaller rooms more and that only for program points 12:24:02 gnokii: hopefully, if we get more next year. But, as you know, as long as do not stand in the kitchen, its not a good party ;-) 12:24:47 mmh, can not decide how the meal at party was had none 12:25:26 ah, I didn't talk about the 'real' party, but more general 12:25:45 not so important 12:25:56 so you think we should have more tracks? 12:26:12 -1 12:26:14 henne yes and no, 12:27:17 which means? 12:27:50 saturday was really short, it wasnt so good to have only that short time for the LPIC e.g. 12:28:18 why was saturday shorter than the other days? 12:28:39 no, we had only one slot for it ;) 12:29:39 i don't get it 12:30:10 so it was not too short but you would like to have two slots on the same day? 12:30:43 henne wir haben die LPI am Samstag nach vorn verlegt um das stattfinden zu lassen, und die Masse hasst nun mal früh aufstehen 12:32:10 und die andere hälfte will früher heim 12:32:32 you can never make everyone happy i think 12:32:42 yes henne, so we should definitly go far away from NUE there isnt going home evening ;) 12:34:16 gnokii: that point is granted 12:35:44 i don't really get what you mean and this keeps going in circles isnt it? 12:36:01 first it was about the venue to small now its about people going home 12:36:07 henne isnt important that are all things up to next conf team ;) 12:36:21 gnokii: agreed 12:36:25 okay 12:36:41 next topic then 12:36:43 important are really things like vegatarian meal and such stuff 12:37:05 yes that was horrible 12:37:29 the food was not so cool in general 12:37:40 dragotin +1 12:37:43 too expensive for what was handded out imo 12:37:45 and the lack of options 12:37:47 dragotin +1 12:37:55 but also that is not important now 12:38:02 lets move on 12:38:03 the snacks was cool but the lunch 12:38:07 why not? this is something someone needs to write down 12:38:18 * dragotin hugs henne 12:38:28 or it will go unnoticed for the next conf :) 12:38:32 this is the excercise 12:38:40 ok 12:38:54 send the points via mail to cfp there is a spreadsheet for it michl did that 12:39:51 that needs to go to a wiki page 12:39:53 how about we do a call for feedback? 12:40:06 we have all the addresses of the people registered right? 12:40:24 yes 12:40:34 AFAIK michl already has something planned 12:40:57 okay 12:41:02 planned for what ? 12:41:27 michl: ahhhh 12:41:41 michl: getting feedback about the conference 12:41:49 michl: from the attendies 12:41:52 send everything to cfp@opensuse.org 12:41:59 hase 12:42:11 all the other attendies in the far wide world out there 12:42:12 and I collect on a google spreadsheet thingie 12:42:21 <_Marcus_> btw, any way to find out why some papers were not accepted? 12:42:21 hmmm 12:42:38 _Marcus_: ask cfp@o.o 12:42:44 _Marcus_: yes, ask. And the answer: It were too many 12:42:45 _Marcus_: simple as they haven't received enough votes 12:42:50 <_Marcus_> ah ok. 12:43:03 _Marcus_: no not really we didnt really not accept papers there was a vot and most lost there ;) 12:43:12 michl: how about an AI for you to send a mail to all participants? :) 12:43:24 henne: awesome idea 12:43:36 michl: asking for feedback so they can put it directly into your spreadsheet 12:43:58 boah, please, I know, all hate me, but do we have to store the stuff in google shit? 12:44:03 best way to destroy it 12:44:07 we have a nicely shaped wiki 12:44:53 whatever. implementation details 12:45:03 michl: would you do that? 12:47:03 michl? 12:47:19 henne: note it down for him 12:48:01 #action michl ask all the participants for feedback directly and collect that somewhere 12:48:18 next topic 12:48:26 #topic Questions & Answers 12:48:43 here are no questions on the wiki 12:48:49 any general questions here? 12:48:54 any topics we need to discuss? 12:49:16 I'd like to mention the openSUSE-Invis-Server project idea here 12:49:24 and invite people to become involved 12:49:35 see my recent blogpost 12:49:50 <- advertising machine 12:50:08 I have one idea about osc'11 (or feedback about osc'10) 12:50:16 * gnokii is already enough involved in invis 12:50:56 gnokii: I was hoping that not just you, me and henne read this conversation ;-) 12:51:22 maybe next time we can meet some place for hacking (like hack_rooms (like we had on FrOSCon)). It's very good opportunity/chance to meet together and hack after conferences (every day I mean). 12:51:52 anaumov: what was wrong with the rooms we had? 12:52:19 not so much and busy all the time 12:52:24 *many 12:52:44 haha sorry anaumov u was that person who said thx for the shuttle because u used it or did u stay for hacking? 12:53:52 gnokii, em... I used shuttle not just go home ;) 12:54:02 anaumov: the rooms where open for hacking i mean 12:54:16 so we already did aht :) 12:54:29 anyway. any other general questions or topics to discuss? 12:55:26 I have a question again.. I am sorry if I am bothering too much 12:55:42 another question!? 12:55:45 hehehe ;) 12:56:13 but how exactly do we plan to take Indian students because I am interested to know about it very much 12:56:19 manugupt1: of course not. we do this so you can ask questions right? :) 12:56:35 manugupt1: you need to talk to michl. he knows all the details 12:56:52 manugupt1: we can involve you I guess if you want 12:57:12 dragotin, yes.. I am looking for ideas 12:57:30 dragotin, I am jsut not sure how 12:57:50 manugupt1:as said: michl is your man 12:58:10 Sure.. I will speak to him 12:58:15 okay cool 12:58:27 anything else? :) 12:58:32 Also long ago I had this idea why not openSUSE Project of code 12:58:52 We have slogan contests and stuff 13:00:14 * gnokii now its time to kill my hoster 13:00:47 manugupt1: feel free to drive this with michl 13:01:07 as we all don't know where we're currently at with the students... 13:01:33 henne, ok 13:02:30 Okay that's it then. If you have more, don't hesitate to bring it up on the appropriate mailinglist. 13:02:42 #info The next project meeting will be in two weeks. Same channel but this time at 16:00 UTC. 13:02:45 Thank you all for participating. Good night and good luck! 13:02:48 #endmeeting