16:00:28 #startmeeting 16:00:28 Meeting started Wed Sep 22 16:00:28 2010 UTC. The chair is henne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:33 #meetingtopic Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 16:00:37 Welcome to the openSUSE Project Meeting! 16:00:42 This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. 16:00:47 The topics for this meeting are: 16:01:00 1. Old Action Items 16:01:00 2. Status Reports 16:01:00 3. Questions & Answers 16:01:14 henne: I see, you have been even 22 secs too late. you need to improve on beeing on time ;-) 16:01:18 #topic Old Action Items 16:01:40 #info you can find the old action items in bugzilla with this link: http://bit.ly/opensuse_action_items 16:01:51 any progress there? 16:02:42 the one assigned to me on information to the package ml I can just give an update on postponing the activity 16:03:04 due to the fact that the junior job sprint status is unclear as is the status of additional QA docu 16:03:29 michl: the status for sprints you always find on the boosters ml :) 16:03:31 if we know more about that & the Indian students its worth blowing the whistle 16:03:39 henne: hihi 16:04:19 michl: the latest is this: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-boosters/2010-08/msg00082.html 16:04:54 henne: Sir, thank you, Sir! 16:05:12 michl: but its not looking good and i wouldnt wait for this for the students 16:05:24 michl: especially not for the announcement 16:06:11 henne: but if there is no easy entry path for the students we don't have anything to announce nor should attract those students 16:06:21 so its an chicken egg thing 16:06:39 michl: the junior jobs page is abot easy discovery of the entries 16:07:03 michl: we have a lot of entries and we handle this without a webapp :) 16:07:04 exactly 16:08:09 so don't wait for the boosters sprint to finish 16:08:14 good? 16:08:28 henne: no good 16:09:03 hm? 16:09:23 in general a simple not manual entry would be helpful 16:09:39 for these Indian students as for any one else new to openSUSE 16:09:46 we have several simple entries 16:09:50 just not all on one page 16:10:08 and the JJ sprint is about automatic generation of this page 16:10:11 henne: so tell me where I can find which packages are there to be updated ? 16:10:45 https://build.opensuse.org/project/status?project=openSUSE:Factory 16:11:23 k - so I'll put this link to the "how to participate" page 16:12:15 yes. we can do a lot manually and don't have to wait for the sprint. as i said 10 minutes ago ;) 16:13:38 okay? 16:13:45 okay as usually 16:14:05 wonderfull 16:14:48 as there are no other action items left we can continue i guess 16:16:48 #info we discussed the only action item (#634456) and agreed on going forward without waiting for the boosters junior jobs sprint 16:16:59 #topic Status Reports 16:16:59 henne: damned - my wiki knowledge is not good enough to update the how to participate page 16:17:27 #info Teams and individuals send various status reports around. Coolo sends one for the distribution, the OBS team publishes meeting minutes, the boosters their "What are the boosters up to" blogposts, the board has a public meeting and so on and so on. 16:17:28 * michl leaves as is and don't care about adding value 16:17:34 Are there any questions regarding those or do we need to discuss anything in detail? 16:17:54 michl: can we do that after the meeting or tomorrow? 16:18:19 for instance coolo's hidden announcement of our change to build factory 16:19:28 #info coolo's "announcement" for the scheduler changes http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2010-09/msg00119.html 16:21:03 is ANYONE awake except michl and me? 16:21:51 is michl still awake? 16:21:57 * michl is 16:22:03 * prusnak reading too 16:22:04 * k0da here 16:22:18 * metalgod awake too 16:22:28 phew :) 16:23:22 prusnak: how about a nice live report from froscamp? :) 16:23:44 live report? I did blogpost 16:23:49 do you want me to record mp3 ? :D 16:24:32 okay, here I go ... 16:24:33 no i want you to tell us what happened :) 16:24:50 it was just the first year of froscamp 16:25:02 so it didn't have too many visitors when compared to other conferences 16:25:23 lots of FOSS projects were presenting though 16:25:51 more talks then booth's? 16:26:05 there were around ~20 booths 16:26:19 two talk tracks + 2 fudcon tracks 16:27:11 how was fudcon? :) 16:27:36 fudcon was OK, but when I compare it to last years fudcon during linuxtag, it was smaller as well 16:28:07 talks were ok, but some of them very fedora specific :-) 16:28:10 how many people would you say? 16:28:26 visitors ? 16:28:37 more then at the ubuntu booth thats is sure 16:28:47 :) 16:28:59 no i mean at fudcon 16:29:11 it's hard to say, because it was in the same area 16:29:23 gnokii_: that's because Geeko is sexier than those three guys in a circle ;-) 16:29:24 but i would guess around 80 16:29:24 registered was for fudcon more then last fudcon in berlin round 120 16:30:08 120 registered means around 80-100 I guess 16:30:14 k 16:30:14 thanks gnokii_ for the numbers 16:30:36 yes there was guys registered like Jan Wildeboer and Jörg Simon both wasnt there 16:30:55 sure, you always have some people that register and don't come 16:31:26 to summarize, it was a nice event, rather small in visitors, but it gave us more opportunity to talk at booths 16:31:42 thanks for the report :) 16:31:54 you're welcome 16:32:03 henne likes not to read blogs 16:32:17 i like to discuss things 16:32:38 this is the time & place to discuss things :) 16:32:56 okay maybe we have any other status report? 16:32:57 ooh np then let us discuss participation for clt in march and for openrheinruhr I could some helping hands need too 16:33:59 sure. bring up the topic and we do 16:34:12 so no other status reports. good 16:34:41 #info pavol told us what happened on froscamp 16:34:54 #topic Question and Answers 16:35:03 #info there were no questions on the wiki 16:35:23 lets discuss CLT and openrheinruhr as requested by gnokii_ 16:36:00 for openrheinruhr booth is accepted, we are 3 for that right now, but more would be better 16:36:28 for clt its the same week like 11.4 would be released so would be great to use that event for an big push 16:37:20 CLT is in march ? 16:38:00 so around march 3rd? 16:38:01 yes, I spoke with Jos about it, the offer one room for extra and it would be great to offer the organizers a complete program for this room 16:38:20 no, since cebit is that date its not mor the firs weekend in march 16:38:30 i guess Michal and I could come to CLT, it is rather close from Prague 16:38:41 should be 12 &13th march 16:39:15 no support for openrheinruhr, though 16:39:15 i don't see us pulling off a devroom while we do a release 16:39:32 henne: no dev room! 16:39:40 its not the same like froscon 16:39:52 henne: i guess gnokii_ means separate opensuse track 16:40:00 prusnak: yes 16:40:12 gnokii_: are you talking about CLT ? 16:40:20 yes I do 16:41:16 yes whatever we do in it 16:41:26 i don't see us pulling it off 16:42:26 we can send some talks, but i don't think it will be enough for the whole room 16:43:28 mmh, wehn we use the room for 3 h workshops we can only 3 of them in it so it needs not really a lot of ppl 16:43:55 yes but workshops require a significant amount of preparation 16:44:11 and we all know how it is around a release 16:44:25 and what if we have to slip or something 16:45:30 to wrap it up, we'll send as many talks as possible, but i'm afraid we can't promise the organizers to fill up the whole room 16:46:13 yeah i think so too 16:46:52 then comes the same participation out like all years before 16:47:11 it is like it is. isn't it? 16:48:24 mmh 16:48:36 what about openrheinruhr? 16:49:20 as I said the booth is accepted, my talks/workshop I dont know yet. We are right now 3 ppl for booth 16:49:38 who would that be? 16:49:49 you, thomas and? 16:49:51 thomas, lurik and me 16:50:09 do you need anything? 16:50:31 else then more participants 16:50:54 touchsmarts or whatever 16:50:55 a package with DVD and stuff definitly I have only round 15 DVD 16:51:37 gnokii_: how many do you need ? 16:51:39 would be nice to use the hp but it means to drive over Nue 16:51:51 gnokii_: we can ship one to you 16:52:37 think 200 DVD are more then enough for this event and 5 geekos (for the organizer girls) 16:52:56 the usual address, right ? 16:53:02 henne: that I cant decide this week thomas is in scotland 16:53:31 michl: yes but it has time because ORR is after Conference ;) 16:53:49 yes, but what's done is done ;-) 16:54:19 so u can spare the money for sending, we can take it with us 16:54:23 gnokii_: okay. let me know. its definately possible! 16:55:11 okay anything else we need to discuss? 16:55:16 any questions? 16:55:29 yeah henne will do but before I think on ORR I have to prepare BLIT :D 16:55:50 sure 16:56:05 Bacon Lettuce Innards Tomato sandwich? 16:56:30 okay then lets wrap this up 16:57:00 #info we discussed what we want to do at CLT 2011 and ORR in november 16:57:16 Okay that's it then. If you have more, don't hesitate to bring it up on the appropriate mailinglist. 16:57:29 #info The next project meeting will be in two weeks. Same channel but this time at 12:00 UTC. 16:57:29 maybe Adrian can give an nice OBS workshop at CLT 16:57:33 Thank you all for participating. Good night and good luck! 16:57:46 #endmeeting