18:11:06 #startmeeting 18:11:06 Meeting started Tue Jul 26 18:11:06 2011 UTC. The chair is zoumpis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:11:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:11:45 Welcome to the openSUSE Medical Project , July 2011 , IRC Meeting 18:12:03 Hello 18:12:10 hello 18:12:17 hello 18:12:18 hello 18:12:49 so.. 18:13:03 *News and Announcements 18:14:09 First of all i would like to thank saigkill (Sascha Manns) for his help around the project and also diamond_gr (Efstathio Eiosifidis) , who suggested me to "take part" in the project 18:14:35 thank you too 18:14:42 welcome... 18:15:20 Furthermore as you all now (http://news.opensuse.org/2011/06/09/new-leadership-inside-the-medical-project/) the Project Leader changed at July 9th 18:16:00 after two years of working and leading the Project has stepped down 18:16:10 well 18:16:13 Sascha 18:17:13 we will apreciate to inform us about your experience in the project , and your ideas + thoughts of course 18:17:39 *the Project Leader has stepped down 18:18:30 In the time as i has read todays topic i was really pacified. 18:18:46 You have planned the next steps very good. 18:19:01 And i'm very impressed how fast this was happend. 18:19:29 So i think we are on a good way now. With Translations, Documentations and so far. 18:19:40 that's sounds interesting 18:19:40 I think we are on a very good way 18:19:43 thanks 18:19:48 that's right 18:20:25 well to inform all of you 18:20:35 the Topics are available here 18:20:35 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Medical_meetings/ 18:20:54 *New Leadership , Plans and Thoughts 18:21:47 As a new leader , me and all of we will try to do the best 18:21:56 importing more applications 18:22:16 build the distro via the KIWI toolset 18:22:35 and of course to include Gnome interface also 18:23:02 and finally to translate the applications included 18:23:08 any doubts? 18:23:27 One of the best sites i've found about medical software was: http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/ 18:23:36 Very good structured 18:23:51 that's right 18:24:15 in debian med project many applications are included 18:24:59 so some changes could be made at the wiki :) 18:25:06 others? 18:27:02 welcome differntreality 18:27:11 hey :) 18:27:24 so we continue to the second topic 18:27:28 hi differentreality 18:27:37 *Report From openSUSE Collaboration Camp (15-17 of July 2011 , Greece) 18:28:42 As an openSUSE Community here in Greece we organised a Collaboration 18:28:48 Camp in Katerini 18:28:59 How many ppl was there? 18:29:09 about 20 18:29:15 sounds cool, are there any photos? 18:29:15 cool. not bad 18:29:28 you can take a look at this link http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Collaboration_weekend_camp2011 18:30:06 photos and videos will be also uploaded soon! 18:30:11 +1 18:30:16 that's right 18:30:33 and can I just say how great it was and that I'm so looking forward to doing something similar again! 18:30:49 Presentation, Translation Fest , Discussions and a lot of beers :) 18:30:56 and swimming! 18:31:00 yes 18:31:13 we would like to inform you 18:31:23 that people from other communities 18:31:30 took part in the Camp 18:31:57 (Gentoo-el community, TheHackerspace) 18:32:19 and kde and gnome 18:32:26 of course 18:32:48 all the presentation was very interesting 18:33:06 and the event finished 18:33:15 with the openSUSE Medical Presentation 18:33:46 i presented the Project and what is the openSUSE Medical Distro 18:34:24 as well as the openEMR ( Installation, Configuration , and a bit of usage) 18:34:41 Sounds good... 18:34:46 yes 18:35:17 Maybe we can preconfigure in SUSE Studio an mysql database for that 18:35:28 people asked about the openEMR and gave a piece of advice about some security issues 18:35:38 or even better upload your own openemr 18:35:46 and give to the people an already populated db 18:35:55 +1 18:36:01 +1 18:36:06 +1 18:36:17 that;s would be my next sentence tampakrap 18:36:19 thnx 18:36:33 +1 18:37:18 +1 18:37:35 give people something to play with, I see many in Ubuntu space that want to try something 18:37:41 preinstall the MySql db would be the best idea in case somebody would like to use the openEMR and maybe not an other EMR application.. 18:38:17 yes, preinstallation is good for the project 18:38:18 it's very easy to play.. i think 18:38:22 yes 18:38:26 i think so too 18:39:01 that's goes to topic "Add new software to the distro" 18:39:54 also we would like to thank all the non-openSUSE Communities for their participation , feedback and presentations 18:40:45 fedora has a nice packaging drive going on I believe 18:40:46 as we all know diamond_gr is a member of Gnome Foundation , he made a very intersting presentation about GNOME 3.0 18:40:57 welcome maggot 18:41:01 saves openSUSE a lot of work I guess 18:41:11 excactly 18:41:34 shilbert: What do you mean with "packaging drive"? Anything like OBS? 18:41:47 but some packages in medical repo have been packaged before Fedora or Debian 18:41:56 :) 18:41:57 no, there is one guy pretty active 18:42:11 ah ok 18:42:20 well 18:42:38 i have to tell more about the Collaboration camp 18:42:58 we would like to thank Theodoros Chatzimichos (tampakrap) 18:43:10 for his presentation (Django) 18:43:29 presentation/workshop ;) 18:43:36 and wish him good luck with the GSOC project in which he is no working 18:43:48 presentation and also 2 workshops 18:43:53 as we all know 18:44:03 he is workigng 18:44:07 excuse me 18:44:15 np 18:44:26 welcome susetroll 18:44:32 the Collaboration 18:44:55 Camp was a very interesting and funcy event 18:45:04 where also people from TheHackerspace took part in 18:45:29 making a presentation + workshop for arduino 18:45:48 hope to see you in the next Collaboration Event in Greece! 18:45:54 we have to carry on... 18:46:05 *openSUSE Conference Participation ( 11-14 of September 2011, Nürnberg) 18:46:21 That's a very intersting topic 18:47:07 To begin with , unfortunately i won't take part in the Conference because i begin my Master Studies in Spain at 5th of September.. 18:47:40 so who's going to take part in the conference 18:47:41 ? 18:47:54 * saigkill does it 18:48:11 ok 18:48:17 I am! And I'm looking forward to it 18:48:23 +1` 18:48:26 sounds good!!! 18:48:30 me too 18:48:35 real men go to summit 18:48:40 ? 18:49:02 ok tampakrap! 18:49:08 lol tampakrap 18:49:09 tampakrap: missed it :-( 18:49:28 tampakrap: why don't u join oSc? 18:49:35 well the the plan is to have a video presentation 18:49:42 of the project 18:50:13 i had to "declare" the presentation 18:50:25 but i my pc is very close to be broken so... 18:50:35 any doubts , ideas? 18:51:28 welcome andre 18:52:01 zoumpis: are'nt there presentation computers and one needs just a stick? 18:52:34 yes but i have to present the Project , but it's impossible to be here... 18:52:47 if anyone can present , no prob 18:53:01 :) 18:53:57 for me its difficult. Because i'm holding one BoF and one Workshop... 18:54:17 if anybody can present the project , we can share a Google Doc...and make a "brainstorm" 18:54:22 yes i know saigkill 18:55:44 any one intersting to present the project? the presentation at this case would be "build" under collaboration... 18:56:37 ? 18:57:11 think about it in two miutes i'll be bacj 18:57:12 k 18:58:46 is it possible to build the apps using kde rather than gnome? 19:01:46 i'm back 19:02:51 wb 19:03:06 well the plan is to include apps no matter gui you use , but building apps for both kde and gnome can be incuded (Add new software) 19:03:08 (Topic) 19:03:09 so 19:04:00 any ideas about the conference? 19:04:25 ? 19:05:05 well guys 19:05:37 vote! 19:06:24 is anybody there? 19:06:28 why don't you send a mail to mailing list for ideas? 19:07:13 yes but i have to declaration of the presentations lasted yesterday 19:07:33 what do you mean ?! 19:08:13 waihttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/07/22/last-call-for-opensuse-conference-papers/ 19:08:31 i mean this 19:08:50 so to brainstorm more ideas 19:09:02 i "declare" a presentation 19:09:45 and after the meeting i will send an e-mail to the list 19:10:21 so in 1 week we will decide about the presentation of the project 19:10:26 Guys vote 19:10:29 ! 19:11:14 (bad english = "declare presentation" = submit presentation) 19:11:24 vote among what alternatives? 19:12:04 yes 19:12:38 It is not clear to me either what's up for voting :/ 19:12:46 video or a simple presentation (made Google Docs) ? 19:12:47 "vote" means to select from existing stuff 19:12:59 yes i agree 19:13:00 ah 19:13:25 is it ok oy? 19:13:40 understand now 19:13:50 video is better I think 19:14:52 so who are in favour of a video presentation ? 19:15:19 I think physical presence is better if there is someone who can do it. 19:15:25 +1 19:15:53 others? 19:16:06 express your opinion pleas 19:16:06 e 19:16:39 physical presentation with video support showing your achievements and what is needed to get beyond 19:17:11 ok amonthoth 19:17:53 so we vote physical presentation right? 19:18:21 yep that would be ideal 19:18:29 ok 19:18:31 so 19:18:43 who is interesting to present the project? 19:19:40 now, if no one can take on this, you have to go to video I guess :/ 19:19:56 that's right.. 19:20:51 So a video presentation without physical presentation will be the Project's Presentation 19:21:02 We carry on to the next topic 19:21:11 *openSUSE Medical 11.4 Feedback 19:22:09 I would like your feedback from openSUSE Medical 11.4 distro 19:22:59 and what do you want to be included in the next release so the Topic is 19:23:06 * saigkill is back. Sorry Desktop was freezed 19:23:16 ok 19:23:44 atm downloading oS114-Medical 19:23:48 *openSUSE Medical 11.4 Feedback + Milestone 1 : Add new software in the distro (aka packaging new software) 19:24:44 yes amonthoth told before the meeting why the distro is not availble via torrent and why do a user have to make an account in Suse Studio so as to download the iso... 19:25:38 so #action next release available in torrent (link will be at the wiki page of the Project) 19:25:57 good idea 19:26:00 remove the "so" 19:26:24 ok 19:27:03 anyone else to express opinion about 11.4 feedback? 19:27:13 #action blah blah 19:27:26 torrent and bypassing the account validation in susegallery would help a faster distribution 19:28:32 #action next release available in torrent (link will be at the wiki page of the Project) 19:29:27 #help 19:29:35 !help 19:29:38 bugbot: help 19:29:38 tampakrap: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 19:30:19 well continue with the next topic 19:30:29 * Milestone 1 : Add new software in the distro (aka packaging new software) 19:30:44 so here is a very interesting part 19:31:09 which do you want to be included in the next distro release? 19:32:32 my thought was to include : 1) openmolar : https://translations.launchpad.net/openmolar 19:32:45 2) shelterManager 19:32:53 +1 19:32:58 3) GNUHealth 19:33:36 and of course an application about diabetics 19:33:47 4) Gnu gluco control 19:34:06 (available at http://ggc.sourceforge.net/) 19:34:29 right, we referred to these during the camp too. Sounds good to offer this software as well, giving users more options 19:35:04 3) GnuHealth is the openERP with the hospital module included , http://medical.sourceforge.net/ 19:35:19 so any more ideas from the others? 19:35:49 and also the pre-installation of LAMP , 19:36:22 definitely that 19:36:44 ok! 19:37:18 GNU Health sounds good. Better than just EMR 19:37:19 Praat and Psignifit 19:37:42 ok 19:38:41 warlordfff, hey 19:38:46 so we have 1) openmolar 2) shetlerManager 3) GnuHealth 4) GnuGluco Control 5) LAMP 6) Praat 7) Psignifit 19:38:54 welcome warlodff 19:39:12 hey 19:39:33 all the above software (except from LAMP) is "un-packed" so we need volunteers to "pack" the source code 19:39:41 just finished my duty 19:39:54 so we need volunteers to pack the apps 19:40:10 any volunteers? 19:41:23 anyone interesting for these apps 19:41:24 ? 19:42:43 I don't really know how to do it... so.. :/ 19:42:59 I can only translate to our language 19:42:59 .. 19:43:23 i will anounce the apps in the mailing list 19:43:59 #action announce the applications to be included in the mailing-list 19:44:26 and basically ask for volunteers to do the packaging right ? 19:44:35 excactly 19:44:45 we need some training how to pack source code for opensuse rpm 19:44:57 and maybe at opensuse-buildservice 19:45:30 Maybe we can ask on opensuse-packaging. So we can mabe do an IRC Training Course 19:45:39 so zoumpis maybe you could focus on giving us some input regarding how to do it - that way we could also volunteer 19:45:48 you can download the OBS documentation from here 19:45:48 or what saigkill just said :) 19:45:48 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service 19:46:02 ok 19:46:21 saigkill, +1 19:46:25 #action ask opensuse-packaging for IRC Training Course 19:46:28 saigkill: +1 19:46:34 saigkill _1 19:46:37 +1 19:47:27 so we carry on 19:47:55 we can invite more people to this training by mailing list 19:48:13 * Milestone 3.1 : Translation of included applications (openEMR,GnuMed, FreemedForms) + Milestone 3.2 : Translation of the non-imported software (openmolar,sheltler Manager) 19:48:18 amonthoth: good idea 19:48:20 and made choose medical packages for their trainning 19:48:21 we can invite people to help us with the packaing 19:48:44 maybe an opeFATE would be a good solution , right saigkill? 19:49:16 zoumpis: Or just an single Email to the List. Maybe we can motivite others to help us 19:49:28 ok! 19:50:12 we can do both of two 19:50:21 +1 19:50:22 so as to find more volunteers 19:50:51 (i have no idea how to pack source code! ,unfortunately) 19:50:54 :) 19:51:02 me neither but I'm sooooo willing to learn :) 19:51:24 #action openFATE , and e-mail invitation of volunteers for packaging 19:51:35 differentreality 19:51:42 efagra could help us! 19:51:51 Some Basic infos are there: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Packaging 19:51:55 true 19:53:10 so we carry on with the translation 19:53:10 i downloaded a Quick_Start_Guide_for_Linux_RPM_Patching.pdf 19:53:49 that's your first step ! congratulations!muy bien! 19:54:30 The goal is to translate the applications(included and non-included) into many languages 19:54:35 so we have 19:54:52 [1] GnuMed Translations : https://translations.launchpad.net/gnumed/trunk/+pots/gnumed 19:55:07 [2] FreeMedForms : https://launchpad.net/freemedforms 19:55:18 [3] openEMR : a) http://www.oemr.org/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=TranslationGuide b) http://www.openmedsoftware.org/wiki/OpenEMR_Internationalization_Development 19:55:30 [4] openmolar : https://translations.launchpad.net/openmolar 19:55:39 [5] shelterManager : https://translations.launchpad.net/sheltermanager 19:56:28 [6] http://medical.sourceforge.net/ 19:56:35 GNUHealth 19:56:39 r we talking about eng -> gr translation ? 19:56:49 not only! 19:57:19 if anyone want to translate the application in an other language it will be appriciated 19:57:21 :) 19:57:39 so volunteers for the translation? 19:57:48 differentreality: I'm translating openmolar 19:57:50 what softwae we use to translate? 19:58:03 QT Linguist 19:58:08 that's good diamond 19:58:08 or similar 19:58:09 good 19:58:32 Mostly i found *.pot or *.po files 19:58:39 amonthoth: I use gtranslator 19:58:41 ah and may this will help you 19:58:41 How to translate via the Launchpad take a look here : https://help.launchpad.net/Translations 19:59:00 is there a spanish translator coordinator? 19:59:01 yes .po or .pot files are used commonly 19:59:15 i can help with the spanish translation amigo 19:59:48 zoumpis, let's start 19:59:54 ok! 20:00:13 that's openfloor stuff! 20:00:15 well 20:00:40 #action announce the software to be translated at the list 20:01:15 diamond_gr, tnx that's good to know... I d like to help out too 20:01:43 so anyone who wants to translate , has only to reply at the mail 20:01:58 :) 20:01:58 Nice!!! 20:02:19 Perfect! 20:02:31 any idea or doubt! 20:02:40 in 2 minutes i 'll be bacj 20:02:42 k 20:05:54 andre are you here? 20:06:29 ping andre? 20:07:13 susetroll? 20:07:19 yes I am here.. 20:07:29 are you adre? 20:07:40 yes that is right :) 20:07:50 Andre Massing? 20:08:02 exactly that guy. 20:08:02 what about lokalize to translate? 20:08:38 ok the topic is yours 20:08:39 *openSUSE Medical Mailing list Brainstorms and Ideas (Andre Massing) 20:08:45 amonthoth: lokalize is OK. 20:08:55 +1111 20:09:05 susetroll your turn 20:09:13 thanks for that! I don't know how many of you read the email on the ml.. 20:09:21 susetroll, ping 20:09:26 me too 20:10:17 i do read medical ml 20:10:25 but as I stated I was interested in improving the "state" of scientific orientated software.. 20:11:09 are you thinking of grid computing too? 20:11:26 meaning for example to try identify software/ package which might be interesting for a broad scientific audience.. 20:12:13 you mean like Folding @ Home project? 20:12:19 what exactly do you mean, when you mean grid computing,,, it is vaste topic? 20:13:26 what is the Folding @ Home project? 20:13:38 cheaper than cluster when high calculation is needed. like eela, condor, 20:14:01 http://en.opensuse.org/Folding@Home 20:14:08 take a look at this 20:15:06 atm looking at 20:16:21 high processing computing vs grid computing 20:16:29 gisela project 20:16:51 yes, that looks interesting, do you know whether there is a large user base? 20:17:29 http://www.gisela-grid.eu/ 20:17:35 so 20:18:15 amonthoth and susetroll can you make a report (in the mailing list) for this kind of software? 20:18:31 zoumpis: +1 20:18:54 would like to read some URLs 20:19:04 all would benefited from these 20:19:07 you mean kind of a collection of software, possibly interesting for a larger audience? 20:19:21 yes 20:19:35 excactly 20:19:55 so 20:20:17 yep, I added some software to openFATE, but the idea there was to collect that in a wiki page, and to supply more information. 20:20:51 #action susetroll & amonthoth report the "scientific software" in the mailing list 20:21:08 may be we can re-write to the openFATE 20:21:09 ... 20:21:31 collect all the nessesary information 20:21:34 I can to this, that mean taking the information from openFATE and tranfering to an appropriate wike entry. 20:21:41 and the wiki page will be created! 20:21:51 don't worry about 20:22:02 +1 suse troll 20:22:03 so next topic 20:22:17 *Build the new release of the Distro with KIWI toolset 20:22:40 That's a very interesting topic 20:22:56 well the plan is the next release to be build with KIWI toolset 20:23:14 (except from the SUSE Studio Release) 20:23:28 so here we also need volunteers 20:24:03 atm i try to understand how the kiwi works... 20:24:22 so help and ideas from others will be appriciated 20:25:24 anyone interesting? 20:26:13