15:09:10 <AJaeger> #startmeeting openSUSE Marketing Meeting 15:09:10 <bugbot> Meeting started Tue Jun 1 15:09:10 2010 UTC. The chair is AJaeger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:09:10 <bugbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:22 <AJaeger> Welcome everybody to the openSUSE Marketing Meeting 15:09:50 <AJaeger> alexbariv: , bear454, bgerber, darix, FunkyPenguin, gnokii__, HeliosReds, javier_, paka, saigkill_, SJ, yaloki, michl: Welcome! 15:09:52 <michl> AJaeger wanna use the magic bot thingi? 15:09:57 <gnokii__> here 15:10:03 <FunkyPenguin> moin 15:10:05 <AJaeger> michl: I'm using it already ;) 15:10:12 <javier_> here 15:10:18 <michl> as said - magic 15:10:32 <AJaeger> michl: Yes, it's magic ;) 15:10:39 <AJaeger> So, what is on the agenda for today? 15:10:40 <AJaeger> I see 15:10:46 <AJaeger> * obs 2.0 launch 15:10:54 <AJaeger> * openSUSE 11.3 launch 15:11:04 <AJaeger> Anything else we should discuss today? 15:11:22 <AJaeger> suseROCKs is travelling right now and sends his regrets. 15:12:00 <gnokii__> would be a great meeting 15:12:25 <FunkyPenguin> AJaeger, what about the cfp? 15:12:51 <AJaeger> FunkyPenguin: What is the topic you like to add to the agenda? 15:13:05 <gnokii__> FunkyPenguin I am glad that noone had the idea to make a strategy for it 15:13:32 <gnokii__> AJaeger he means Call for Paper conference 15:13:36 <FunkyPenguin> AJaeger, how best to get the word out for the cfp, who to target etc 15:13:51 <AJaeger> FunkyPenguin: Ok, added to the agenda. 15:13:52 <FunkyPenguin> sorry, yes call for papers for oSC10 15:14:05 <AJaeger> Ok, let's start 15:14:12 <AJaeger> #topic openSUSE 2.0 launch 15:14:30 <AJaeger> saigkill_: could you give us an update? 15:14:32 <gnokii__> 2.0 ? 15:14:42 <javier_> gnokii__: Build Service 15:14:42 <AJaeger> #topic openSUSE BuildService 2.0 launch 15:14:50 <gnokii__> I thaught we launch 11.3 15:14:54 <javier_> yeah 15:15:05 <gnokii__> thats better :D 15:15:18 * AJaeger will work on the final announcement soon and will place it on the Novell PR blog as well. 15:15:40 <AJaeger> I'll try to get some quotes and contact folks to mention it. 15:15:55 <AJaeger> Is anybody working on the success stories based on the interviews that saigkill did? 15:16:13 <AJaeger> coolo and jw will do a video presentation showing the new features of obs 2.0 15:17:11 <AJaeger> anything I missed? Questios, comments? 15:17:26 <gnokii__> lloks like no work done 15:17:30 <FunkyPenguin> sorry did saigkill_ post the interviews? 15:17:47 * FunkyPenguin has had his head up his backside for a while :/ 15:18:10 <AJaeger> FunkyPenguin: He uploaded them to the wiki and linked from the wik page 15:18:28 <AJaeger> so, now we need to make success stories out of them 15:18:35 <michl> AJaeger which wiki page? 15:18:58 <AJaeger> http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing_Team/OBS 15:19:25 <AJaeger> Has two interviews linked 15:19:40 <FunkyPenguin> ah ok thanks - /me reads 15:20:08 <AJaeger> FunkyPenguin: If you like to help, contact me - I'm stepping in now with saigkill_ sleeping... 15:20:22 <AJaeger> #topic openSUSE 11.3 Release 15:20:37 <AJaeger> michl, do you want to lead this topic? 15:20:58 <michl> upps, me leading anything ? that's new 15:21:00 <michl> haha 15:21:37 <michl> to get the 11.3 release from a marketing perspect started 15:21:47 <michl> I'm about creating a launch plan 15:22:23 <michl> so listing the to do's, approaching people to take responsibility for topics and so on 15:22:51 <michl> the plan will/should be soon available on a wiki page I'll publish 15:23:11 <gnokii__> so I wrote all Ambassadors again to pepare launch parties, get deamons but nothing else 15:23:22 <michl> gnokii__: great 15:23:36 <gnokii__> no isnt great 15:23:48 <gnokii__> because is had no effect 15:24:18 <michl> gnokii__: oh gnokii__ doesn't want any praise 15:24:33 <michl> that's bad but your effort is good 15:25:03 <gnokii__> michl when a thing is functional thats praise enough ;) 15:25:19 <FunkyPenguin> gnokii__, out of interest, do you know how fedora/ubuntu handle their launch parties? 15:25:34 <gnokii__> yes a little bit 15:26:02 <FunkyPenguin> ok i'll try and catch up with you later about it then 15:26:11 <FunkyPenguin> i think that is part of the issue - at least for me 15:26:31 <FunkyPenguin> im not part of a lug, and im in a fairly remote part of the uk 15:26:48 <FunkyPenguin> so being able to get a group of people to play is kinda tough 15:27:58 <gnokii__> FunkyPenguin u can meet me next week in Berlin :D 15:29:04 <FunkyPenguin> gnokii__, haha - i'd love to, not sure my wife or emplyer would allow me to though 15:29:08 <AJaeger> ok, next topic? 15:29:30 <AJaeger> #topic openSUSE Conference 15:29:48 <AJaeger> FunkyPenguin: Do you want to lead this topic? 15:30:02 <FunkyPenguin> um ok i'll start ;) 15:30:55 <FunkyPenguin> As we know the theme for this year's conference is Collaboration Across Borders 15:31:29 * dragotin wonders what the question is 15:31:52 <FunkyPenguin> as part of that idea, we would like to get upstream and other distros and projects joining in and tasting the brilliant coolade that is the Geeko 15:32:16 <FunkyPenguin> my question is how do we best get their involvement 15:32:37 <FunkyPenguin> also how can we get companies that are involved in some of those projects involved 15:32:49 <gnokii__> FunkyPenguin thats really simple 15:33:14 <gnokii__> talk with them, invite them personally 15:34:05 <FunkyPenguin> gnokii__, nothing is ever *that* simple ;-) 15:34:45 <FunkyPenguin> i suppose it is a question more for the conf organisers 15:35:20 <FunkyPenguin> dragotin, are there any guidlines as to who we invite, and any "official" statement that goes along with it or anything? 15:35:23 * gnokii__ think lot of talking next week ;) 15:36:32 <michl> dragotin: ? 15:36:39 <dragotin> FunkyPenguin: no, how should it? 15:36:48 <dragotin> no, no guidelines 15:36:50 <gnokii__> FunkyPenguin as I said "invite" I mean not to say u get a talk ;) 15:37:04 <dragotin> except that we have the program committee that finally decides over the program 15:37:10 <dragotin> gnokii__: exactly 15:37:16 <michl> I'd say anyone or any company you see a good fit you should approach 15:37:54 <FunkyPenguin> ok that's fine for me then - i already have one distro lined up and have a few other projects in mind 15:38:18 <gnokii__> so which projects just say it 15:38:26 <dragotin> Yes, I'd say we should try to pick specific people and talk to them 15:38:39 <gnokii__> dragotin +1 15:38:50 <dragotin> because its also sad if one of us invites somebody and afterwards the PC declines the talk 15:39:06 <dragotin> we should try to look consistent to the outside ;-) 15:39:40 <FunkyPenguin> ok well i've already spoken to Jorge Castro from Ubuntu - couldnt get Jono at the time 15:39:44 <dragotin> we could for example discuss the ideas first here 15:39:54 <dragotin> FunkyPenguin: very cool 15:40:49 <FunkyPenguin> i also have Alfresco, Intel, Funambol, Android, GNOME A11y & KDE A11y in mind 15:41:14 <gnokii__> dragotin, we should one thing doe better first 15:42:18 * gnokii__ back to 11.3 marketing http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2010/06/opensuse-counter-for-facebook/ 15:43:23 <javier_> FunkyPenguin: I would add Nokia to that list ;) 15:43:37 <gnokii__> javier_ like alex :D 15:43:51 <dragotin> javier_: sure 15:44:06 <FunkyPenguin> yup good point 15:44:26 <gnokii__> maybe we should add texas instruments to push arm :D 15:44:44 <FunkyPenguin> i'd also like to see fedora, mandriva, gentoo & debian 15:45:30 <gnokii__> mandriva is a big problem, never seen on a german event since LinuxTag went from Karlsruhe 15:45:36 <javier_> gnokii__: perhaps any of you could talk with Nokia guys at LinuxTag Berlin 15:45:53 <dragotin> yes, and we convince them to use the bs 15:46:03 <javier_> :) 15:46:11 <gnokii__> novell buy mandriva :D 15:46:22 <dragotin> AI michl: Talk to Nokia on linuxtag 15:46:38 <javier_> dragotin: they build their own rhel-based distro for internal usage 15:46:47 <javier_> I don't know how they build it 15:46:55 <javier_> I mean using which tools 15:46:56 <gnokii__> who? 15:47:00 <javier_> Nokia 15:47:15 <dragotin> javier_: might be 15:47:25 <dragotin> javier_: its never to late to switch 15:47:32 <javier_> hehe 15:48:06 <javier_> even if they keep using their RHEL-based OS, perhaps they could benefit from using the Build Service 15:48:21 * dragotin knows that they do already 15:48:31 <gnokii__> dragotin maybe we should only notive the interesting projects and talk about keynotes first 15:48:33 <javier_> nice :) 15:48:40 <AJaeger> javier_: As part of MeeGo, Nokia is using build service... 15:49:02 <dragotin> gnokii__: yes, keynotes should be handled quickly 15:49:05 <javier_> AJaeger: nice. I didn't know that. I was thinking about their servers 15:49:06 <dragotin> to get some good 15:49:24 <gnokii__> yes thats the point and keynotes we have to invite really personally 15:49:26 <AJaeger> Anybody having proposals on what kind of keynotes we want? 15:50:06 <gnokii__> dragotin, u had a idea M$ should we risk that? 15:50:18 <AJaeger> I guess the program comittee takes care of keynotes, correct? 15:50:41 <FunkyPenguin> well keynotes really need to epitomise the theme of the conference imho 15:51:00 <AJaeger> gnokii__: What would we want from them? 15:51:12 <FunkyPenguin> so getting something that covers working with multiple projects or distros or something would be great 15:52:19 <FunkyPenguin> AJaeger, i'd love to see MS there talking about collaboration with other OSes, how they find working in open source etc 15:53:16 <gnokii__> I looking with mixed feelings when I see the reactions about M$ sponsorship linuxtag 15:56:08 <AJaeger> any other proposals for keynote topics or speakers? 15:56:28 <AJaeger> do we want a keynote by Novell? Which topic? 15:56:55 <gnokii__> AJaeger its a little bit speaking in own house 15:57:57 <AJaeger> gnokii__: And look at Brainshare, Intell developer conferences etc. - the organisator normally gives a keynote 15:58:18 <AJaeger> perhaps we should ask our chairperson or somebody from the board for a keynote? 15:58:55 <AJaeger> Note: I'm not pushing for having a keynote by a certain group - I want great speakers and topics! 16:00:34 * AJaeger thinks that nobody likes his proposals 16:02:02 <gnokii__> mabye he adress 16:02:09 <javier_> yes, someone from the board 16:03:15 <AJaeger> or from the new community manager if we hired one by then as kind of introduction? 16:03:45 <michl> AJaeger: I doubt that a story just around openSUSE is the right fit 16:04:19 <michl> imo a key note either shows something outstanding new or a general vision where we or the industry is heating to 16:04:43 <javier_> AJaeger: do you have any candidates? 16:04:46 * FunkyPenguin needs to head out 16:05:15 <AJaeger> michl: let's look whether we have candidates in openSUSE for that - and if there none, so be it. 16:05:37 <AJaeger> javier_: I have nobody specific in mind, just want to have us think outside of the box 16:05:52 <AJaeger> let's move on to the next topic, ok? 16:06:15 <AJaeger> #topic Q and A 16:06:27 <AJaeger> Any general questions or discussions? 16:07:25 <SJ> damn it , was these a meeting ? 16:07:31 <SJ> I guess yes . . . :( 16:07:40 <michl> SJ: no, it still is 16:07:41 <SJ> these=there* 16:07:50 <SJ> michl, ohk :-) 16:08:03 <SJ> about to end . Well I thought its on 3rd 16:08:08 <javier_> AJaeger: the openSUSE KDE team has started his own blog to have more visibility regarding openSUSE/KDE work 16:08:18 <javier_> AJaeger: perhaps other teams could do something similar 16:08:29 <AJaeger> javier_: is it part of planet openSUSE? 16:08:33 <AJaeger> javier_: Great! 16:08:48 <javier_> AJaeger: I am not sure. It's part of KDE planet 16:09:00 <AJaeger> javier_: it should be part of openSUSE IMO 16:09:36 <javier_> AJaeger: I don't see it in the list of feeds 16:09:44 <javier_> it's called KDE at openSUSE 16:09:53 <javier_> yepp 16:10:35 <SJ> Sorry to interrupt , did I miss some announcement or notification ? 16:10:54 <AJaeger> javier_: Please file a bug against opensuse.org/infrastructure and assign it to yaloki 16:11:10 <javier_> ok 16:11:12 <AJaeger> SJ: We missed to send the announcement out - but it was part of the openSUSE calendar 16:11:32 <AJaeger> javier_: And other teams should do the same. Could you post something on -project to encourage others? 16:11:45 <AJaeger> SJ: Since yesterday only. Sorry. 16:11:51 <SJ> AJaeger, ok no worries.I should start using the openSUSE calendar (than mine) . 16:11:53 <SJ> np :-) 16:13:18 <AJaeger> anything else or should we adjourn the meeting for today? 16:14:20 * AJaeger wishes everybody a nice evening/day/morning (depending where you are) and finishes the meeting now 16:14:22 <AJaeger> #endmeeting