17:59:42 #startmeeting 17:59:42 Meeting started Wed Nov 21 17:59:42 2012 UTC. The chair is tittiatcoke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:08 #meetingtopic Welcome to the openSUSE KDE community IRC meeting! Please wait with other discussion until the meeting is over. This meeting is logged 18:00:25 The agenda for tonight is: 18:00:29 1. Old action items 18:00:36 2. Status report 18:00:49 tittiatcoke: o/ 18:00:50 3. KDE Team Task list 18:01:05 tittiatcoke: im getting bothered by family FYI, so i will be on and off 18:01:05 4. Apper or Kupdateapplet 18:01:10 mrdocs: ok 18:01:32 5. Bring KDE 4.10 Beta 1 into KDF ? 18:01:46 6. Q&A, Misc 18:01:51 Any other points ? 18:01:53 i'll try and be there for 5 18:02:20 Ok 18:02:30 #topic Old Action Items 18:02:50 Action 1: wstephenson & einar77 create a patch-formatter to add the kde standard headers. 18:03:05 Bille: Anything on this one as that einar77 isn't there ? 18:04:54 Ok. checking the old action items, then the actionholders are not in the meeting. So let's move on to the next topic 18:05:00 #topic Status Report 18:05:11 shumski: Status on the desktoptheme ? 18:05:27 tittiatcoke: it is doing fine 18:05:41 tittiatcoke: altough i would appreciate some broader feedback 18:05:57 Is it now in a kind of finished state or are there still items that you want to polish ? 18:06:43 there are 2 bugs which are blocking a state a+i would want it to be 18:06:58 but i don't know when/will they be fixed 18:06:58 Which 2 bugs ? 18:07:17 screenlocker text, and nm plasmoid box 18:07:41 Aha. Ok. Based on this I would propose to move your work into the official kdebase4-openSUSE and then push it to Factory ? 18:07:59 i am for that 18:08:15 other opinions ? 18:08:44 how do you mean? 18:08:55 #action tittiatcoke shumski update the kdebase4-openSUSE github repo with the new plasma-theme and submit to factory 18:09:13 oh yeah, change the name 18:09:17 shumski: I just wanted to see if the other would have a different opinion about moving it to factory :-) 18:09:20 :-) 18:09:26 tittiatcoke: ok :-) 18:10:08 Status from my side is that I pushed a newer snapshot in KUSC (which is just a little younger than Beta 1). Unfortunately before I could publish it, both repo's got retriggered. 18:10:36 Also KDE in Factory is now ConsoleKit free. 18:10:52 any other status ? 18:11:03 first and only DE in openSUSE so far :-) 18:11:31 shumski: Nope. Gnome was ready at the same time :-) 18:11:48 tittiatcoke: i had gnome yesterday installed, and it still pull CK 18:11:54 *pullls 18:12:05 I see. Maybe this is caused by pulling in XDM ? 18:12:36 #topic KDE Team task list. 18:12:39 nope, gnome-session and some other things, but that is for gnome team 18:12:51 :-) 18:14:05 Ok the task list is on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_packaging_tasks. However I have the feeling that we can skip this one due to the low participation. Based on my email I got two reactions of people that want to help out, but after I indicated some thing to them no further reaction. So I guess the core team is still krop, alin, einar, shumski and myself. 18:14:48 Next topic, I guess :-) 18:14:54 tittiatcoke: i am ready and eager :-) 18:15:00 # topic Apper or Kupdateapplet 18:15:00 about the tasks 18:15:32 shumski: I know and you have been proving this the last weeks :-) And your work is very much appreciated 18:15:44 tittiatcoke: oki :-) 18:16:03 on the apper vs kupdate, i don't have any strong opinion 18:16:41 one needs a update applet for the distro, but neither imo provide a flawless solution 18:16:45 *on 18:16:50 The topic was raised by somebody that also submitted an update on the old kupdateapplet. I know that we had some discussions in the past. 18:17:45 tittiatcoke: sorry it seems I have to go... 18:17:57 shumski: I know. Unfortunately it seems that PackageKit 0.8.x is heavily improved, but the zypp backend is no longer compatible. So I guess we can only take a real decision at a later point when we can compare really the latest apper and see how this works 18:17:59 alin: Ok 18:18:06 tittiatcoke: sorry for missing the metting 18:18:08 tittiatcoke: yup 18:18:15 alin: No problem 18:19:21 #action tittiatcoke keep the discussion apper/kupdateapplet on the actionlist until we know what happens with the PackageKit zypp backend 18:19:31 Then the next topic. 18:19:47 #topic Bring KDE 4.10 Beta 1 in KDF ? 18:19:58 Bille: You there ? 18:20:01 me votes - yes 18:20:07 :-) 18:20:59 It was brought in by einar77 and the rational would be to keep 4.10 Beta 1 only in KDF until 4.10 reaches the RC state. This could mean that Factory doesn't get fixes for KDE for a certain period 18:21:33 that is a ~month? 18:21:47 Bille: krop mrdocs herby: Any opinion on this ? 18:21:50 shumski: I believe so 18:22:13 yup, RC1 is out on 19th Dec 18:22:24 I am for 4.10 Beta in KDF 18:23:05 Ok. Let's wait a little and maybe Bille is coming back :-) 18:23:35 ctrippe: any opinion on bringing KDE 4.10 Beta 1 into KDF and push 4.10 to Factory when it reaches the RC1 level ? 18:24:36 tittiatcoke: I'm in favor of 4.10 Beta 1 in KDF given the timeline for 12.3 18:24:45 Ok :-) 18:25:38 #info KDE 4.10 Beta 1 will be pushed into KDF. 18:25:59 tittiatcoke: then nepomuk indexer doesn't have to be split? 18:26:05 #action tittiatcoke set out an actionplan to decouple KR49 from KDF and then to update KDF with the 4.10 packages 18:26:09 since it builds without ffmpeg 18:26:17 shumski: Correct 18:26:44 shumski: Beta 1 is actually already in KUSC and there we have been building the nepomuk indexer already. :-) 18:26:58 tittiatcoke: cool :-) 18:27:33 Ok. I will check tomorrow what exactly needs to be done :-) 18:27:41 oki 18:28:06 last topic :-) 18:28:11 #topic Q&A, Misc 18:28:34 Anything ? 18:28:55 i would suggest that the list items get marked 18:29:00 that which are done 18:29:10 shumski: Which list items ? 18:29:12 and/or in-progrees 18:29:19 the KDE improvements page 18:29:29 Aha. Ok :-) Yeah, we need to update that one 18:29:57 #action tittiatcoke put the KDE improvement page as a continuous point on the agenda 18:30:06 i guess when more people are here :-) 18:30:18 #action tittiatcoke update the KDE improvement page based on the current status. 18:30:23 shumski: That would be nice :-) 18:30:45 shumski: thanks for this reminder :-) 18:30:48 sure 18:30:53 Any other points ? 18:31:05 kamoso currentlyy needs a patch for building against libkipi2 18:31:24 Ok. 18:31:26 and i am also for including new kcm-gofig-gtk 18:31:31 *config 18:31:51 Yeah, we need that one. :-) I have in my home repo, so easy to push :-) 18:31:57 i have the package ready somewhere (but i saw adra assigned) 18:31:58 I hope that we get a release soon :-) 18:32:08 tittiatcoke: it is released :-) 18:32:15 Ok :-) 18:32:48 me finds the link 18:33:13 yeah, I have packaged the latest version packaged 18:33:46 can't find the link, but was couple a days ago 18:33:53 see https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=kde-gtk-config&project=home%3Aadra 18:33:59 adra: Can you push that one to KDF ? 18:34:14 OK 18:34:41 #action adra push kde-gtk-config to KDF for inclusion in Factory 18:34:47 oh yeah 18:34:51 one thing 18:34:59 do we want webaccouunts? 18:35:12 Explain :-) 18:35:24 tittiatcoke: +1 on 4.10b1 in KDF 18:35:32 Bille: Ok. Thanks :-) 18:35:32 is that the online accounts thing? 18:35:39 shumski: afiestas' baby? 18:35:40 yuo 18:35:42 yup 18:35:51 tittiatcoke: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=web-accounts.git 18:35:56 Is that in a usable state ? 18:36:20 was couple of months ago, i need to test it now 18:36:45 *but*, it doesn't have a release afaik 18:36:48 sounds like a KUP thing 18:36:50 Seems that since beginning of October nothing happened with it 18:36:54 Bille: Agree 18:37:07 afiestas is a very busy senor 18:37:24 :-) 18:37:37 shumski: Can you create a package for it and then push it to KDE:Unstable:Playground ? 18:37:49 tittiatcoke: yes :-) 18:38:01 Bille: His new baby is also in git :-) libkscreen and kscreen 18:38:17 i was also looking to package python requirements for nepomuk-metadata-extractor 18:38:51 must show that to jw 18:39:05 Bille: Doesn't work yet :-( 18:39:19 shumski: what python requirements ? 18:39:35 tittiatcoke: for the plugins 18:39:45 otherwise it's pretty useless :-) 18:39:47 I see. Ok. Go for it :-) 18:40:25 tittiatcoke: what's the latest on this desktop sprint plan 18:43:10 Bille: Not much. Still looking at the participants and if the timing is right 18:43:24 Any other topics for discussion ? 18:44:01 nope from me 18:44:16 not from me 18:44:22 no 18:44:32 just took delivery of a rasp pi 18:44:38 maybe i can get anna helping us using it 18:45:56 :-) 18:46:05 Ok. Then I would close the meeting. Thanks everyone 18:46:09 beh 18:46:15 I arrive just in time for it to close 18:47:33 einar77: Yup. :-) But we got the go for putting 4.10B1 in KDF 18:48:03 gotta get this one to bed now 18:48:24 Bille: Ok. Thanks 18:48:29 #endmeeting