15:04:27 #startmeeting 15:04:27 Meeting started Wed Apr 20 15:04:27 2011 UTC. The chair is mrdocs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:04:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:57 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meeting << discussion topics 15:05:20 #meetingtopic Welcome to the openSUSE KDE community IRC meeting! Please wait with other discussion until the meeting is over. This meeting is logged. 15:05:47 #topic old action items 15:06:24 wstephenson - to contact i18n team with regards to openSUSE guides 15:06:28 any updates ? 15:06:35 uh, no 15:06:41 must do that finally 15:06:45 ok 15:07:01 anaumov - study packagekit-zypp - updates ? 15:07:17 mrdocs: no longer relevant 15:07:21 next 15:07:30 that was a 11.4 item 15:07:32 cb400f - patch in icons from kupdateapplet - updates ? 15:08:25 brb 15:12:10 back 15:12:13 ok next 15:14:00 any more old action items? 15:14:27 all - test phonon-gstreamer + pulseaudio combo 15:14:39 i do remember how that was resolved 15:14:43 +not 15:15:09 #topic status reports 15:15:19 you missed the real action items 15:15:23 at the bottom 15:15:44 wstephenson ask maintenance team how to replace knm with pnm 15:15:56 krop: thanks for the pointer 15:16:04 #topic old action items 15:16:11 wstephenson ask maintenance team how to replace knm with pnm 15:16:13 not done... 15:16:25 wstephenson talk to dirk about KUSC updating scripts 15:16:29 i need to spend a week on this and 4.6.2 for 11.4 15:16:36 ok 15:16:44 done, we are using titti's snapshots as feed for KUSC 15:16:46 wstephenson: i have a test machine 15:16:53 for pnm 15:17:12 wstephenson: you can even have an account on it if you want 15:17:32 wstephenson talk to dirk about KUSC scripts 15:17:54 mrdocs: thats kind but it needs ppl actively using it in a dynamic envt - 3g, different wifi, hidden etc 15:17:59 mrdocs: dupe 15:18:10 hello 15:18:16 the meeting is in 12 hours? 15:18:23 terietor: no, know 15:18:27 it's now 15:18:33 thanks 15:19:04 terietor: the link here should always be helpful http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_meeting 15:19:34 ok next 15:20:35 wstephenson: thanks 15:20:47 #topic Remove SLE11, 11.2 and 11.3 from KDE:Unstable:Playground (krop) 15:20:59 you missed the status report now :) 15:21:03 doh 15:21:08 going too fast 15:21:25 #topic status reports 15:21:50 who wants to go first ? 15:22:07 * wstephenson has been clearing the enterprise stuff that built up during 11.4 15:22:26 * wstephenson helping cartman by testing the KDE promo DVD 15:22:36 * wstephenson has been getting Plasma Active bootstrapped in the OBS 15:22:36 i can report, we are close to scribus 1.4 15:23:11 krop: pim status? 15:23:23 was it decided to move knemo from Contrib > Extras ? 15:23:40 nothing to declare. some 4.6 blocking bugs have been closed already 15:23:56 brb.. sorry ive got people doing work on the house 15:25:09 back 15:25:18 krop: did i read rc5 is out ? 15:25:31 you misread, only beta5 15:25:36 ah 15:25:45 too many things going in my life nwo :) 15:25:53 anything else ? 15:26:05 there will be a pim 4.4.11 imminently 15:26:24 that will be an online update too 15:26:29 wstephenson: any large fixes ? like the ones I have BT's for ? 15:27:06 mrdocs: several small fixes for wallet failures, kontact problems 15:27:13 ok 15:27:17 not sure about any crashers but they all improve the experiences 15:27:31 and a crash in kcalcore that crashed plasma has been fixed. 15:27:34 noted.. im sure my crashes are related to timing and my crappy DSL speed here 15:27:36 wstephenson: any thing where you want me to work on ? 15:27:47 never had crashes at work with the same IMAP 15:28:08 siddvicious: wait till we get through the agenda 15:28:23 ok 15:28:27 plasma active is in KDE:Active in OBS 15:28:34 * mrdocs welcoms siddvicious from our fedora friends 15:28:39 anyone with a tablet or who likes tablet UIs on laptops is welcome to try it 15:28:51 it is based on KUSC 15:28:58 wstephenson: usable without touch ? 15:29:03 mrdocs: sure 15:29:16 cool i can play with it this weekend on my netbook 15:29:45 too bad titti is not here 15:29:52 he'll be here any minute 15:29:53 any other status reports ? 15:29:57 ahh good 15:30:05 then i will stand by a min 15:30:06 well NM 0.9 is going to give us a headache 15:30:17 in factory and on 11.4 where gnome3 mandates it 15:30:19 wstephenson: yes, i ve seen its going to land soon 15:30:29 titti is working on testing patches to fix KNM for it 15:30:47 wstephenson: where are the problems generally and what can people do to help ? 15:30:59 mrdocs: thnx :) 15:31:00 mrdocs: it changes the API and we need to adapt KNM 15:31:13 other status: i've been teaching myself QML so i have a clue about maintaining/supporting plasmoids that use it 15:31:15 it's a mind bender 15:31:25 heh 15:31:39 wstephenson: at least you are now getting normal sleep :P 15:32:38 mrdocs: let's get on with it 15:33:24 * tittiatcoke is reporting for the meeting. Apologies for being late 15:34:46 wstephenson: You there ? 15:35:15 yes 15:35:32 Ok. It is very silent for a meeting :-) 15:35:33 tittiatcoke: any status from you? 15:35:47 tittiatcoke: got baby on knee. mrdocs chairing 15:36:22 Ok. Nothing special. Have been working on PNM for NM 0.9 15:36:25 tittiatcoke: waiting for you to arrive ^^ $topic 15:36:53 next ? 15:37:10 mrdocs: regular agenda items 15:37:14 krop's sle11 topic 15:37:16 #topic Remove SLE11, 11.2 and 11.3 from KDE:Unstable:Playground (krop) 15:37:54 no objection re: SLE 15:37:56 topic says all, the kup builds are currently disabled for SLE11, 11.2, 11.3 and the KR45 repos 15:37:57 11.2 and 11.3 too? 15:38:10 mostly due to kdelibs being too old 15:38:20 ah vanilla 11.2 and 11.3 15:38:25 fine by me 15:38:28 yes 15:38:31 same 15:38:32 any objections? 15:38:36 I disabled those build already since the last team meeting :-) 15:38:57 +1 15:39:02 aha son consider done ? 15:39:03 ok, removing the repos now 15:39:26 #topic Status Plasmoid-networkmanagement (PNM) with regards to NetworkManager 0.9 (which will be knocking on Factory's door soon). (tittiatcoke) 15:40:05 This is purely to update everybody on the status of PNM regarding compatibility of NM 0.9 15:41:03 Does it work? :) 15:41:04 Up to this morning it was quite hopeless, but after talking to jkrimes of Fedora, things got a lot better :-) It seems that there is a hidden compatibility mode that let us run PNM with only some small changes 15:41:21 sweet 15:41:40 Now it works fine. I still have to test a couple of things, but it seems that it functions normally. So moving NM 0.9 to Factory wouldn't be an issue. 15:41:48 lovely 15:41:54 wstephenson: Any update from your side regarding the plans to fully support NM 0.9 ? 15:42:33 tittiatcoke: nope 15:43:01 tittiatcoke: how is the compat mode enabled? 15:44:07 There is a patch for NM 0.9, which the Gnome team already has enabled. From that point we have a patch for kdebase4-workspace and a patch for PNM. It seems just to talk to a specific DBus Compat function 15:44:43 wstephenson: You can check both patches out in home:rwooninck:special 15:44:49 tittiatcoke: ok 15:45:23 I understood from vuntz that NM 0.9 will first go to GNOME:Factory and from there it will be submitted to Factory. This might still take 1 or 2 weeks 15:45:42 godo 15:45:44 good 15:46:12 tittiatcoke: anything else to add ? 15:46:22 Nope. 15:46:40 ok 15:46:41 next 15:46:55 #topic Time of the meeting. (tittiatcoke) 15:47:53 I just raised this one as that with the Summertime, the meeting is now at 5pm CET. Which might not be the real best time for the meeting. Initially it was set for 4pm. Question is if we should leave it at this time or push it back one hour to 4pm or maybe push it to 6pm ? 15:48:11 tittiatcoke: a no brainer 15:48:22 :-) Tell me :-) 15:48:24 4pm suits me 15:48:30 just do the DST adjustment 15:48:31 same mostly 15:48:42 6pm is really bad for me with the little one 15:48:46 Sounds good for me. 15:48:48 same 15:49:00 Can imagine. 5pm is normally the time that I leave the office :-) 15:49:02 any one else objecting ? 15:50:01 #info next meeting will be pushed back to 16:00 CET owing to DST 15:50:42 next 15:50:54 #topic Q+A/ misc 15:51:12 anyone got any graphics jobs for siddvicious? 15:51:25 what kind ? 15:51:38 he did a great job doing the dvd sleeve and media ring for the upstream dvd (including the prepress work) 15:51:49 gr 15:51:50 and is apparently keen to help more 15:52:09 siddvicious: coming to LGM ? 15:52:10 siddvicious: mrdocs is one of the guys behind scribus 15:52:14 wstephenson: any packing included :) 15:52:34 mrdocs: oh gr8 :) 15:52:51 wstephenson: i havent got hands on suse packaging 15:53:06 and yeah graphics is also good :) 15:53:13 LGM ? 15:53:27 siddvicious: im not much of a coder, but i help start scribus and i herd the kittens :) 15:54:40 mrdocs: thats what community needs initially >> The Initiative 15:54:49 siddvicious: have you seen anything that needs fixing in our skrooge packages? 15:55:09 oh yeah 15:55:19 webkit not needed 15:55:54 skrooge requires are qca2-devel libofx-devel qt-devel kde4-devel 15:56:49 siddvicious: wanna make a submitrequest? learn our tools? 15:57:02 yeah sure 15:57:07 ok 15:57:11 any more Q&A? 15:57:27 krop: it turns out your branches in home: block removal... 15:57:48 deleting 15:57:57 mrdocs: and i am developer behind plasma dashboard for skrooge 15:58:03 krop: you a big supporter and a stopper in the same time 15:58:08 soon i get in stable release :) 15:58:10 wstephenson: retry 15:58:13 krop: quantum nature of things 15:59:07 wstephenson: If you see dirk by any change, maybe you can ask him how we move on with KUSC ? 15:59:45 tittiatcoke: will do 15:59:50 thanks. 16:00:12 unfortunately my new office location is no longer between dirk and the bathroom so i don't get free chances to interrupt him... 16:01:10 hm 16:01:20 chair failure. 16:01:39 anything else? 16:01:55 wstephenson: No problem :-) No hurry 16:01:58 mrdocs_: please wind it up 16:02:02 Nothing else from me 16:03:03 Thanks everyone for coming.. next meeting in 2 weeks 16:03:08 #endmeeting 16:03:16 gah i lost op 16:03:25 change your nick ? 16:03:29 wstephenson: stole them 16:03:40 net disconnect 16:03:55 #endmeeting 16:04:02 thanks 16:04:05 tittiatcoke: i think i know why the plasmoid fails 16:04:11 bbiab 16:04:14 tittiatcoke: is the curl command that fails... 16:04:16 mrdocs: Doesn't work 16:04:24 I guess you have to end it 16:04:26 wait 1 16:04:45 alin: The plasmoid doesn't use curl to send the file 16:04:53 #endmeeting