18:07:35 <bmwiedemann> #startmeeting 18:07:35 <bugbot> Meeting started Mon Nov 12 18:07:35 2012 UTC. The chair is bmwiedemann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:07:35 <bugbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:07:44 <bmwiedemann> Hello everyone 18:07:44 <bmwiedemann> As always, today's agenda is on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting 18:07:44 <bmwiedemann> You can still add to the agenda on the wiki while the meeting is in progress 18:08:14 <bmwiedemann> #topic MS1 testing 18:08:55 <bmwiedemann> I ran the usual openQA tests on factory but most of them failed for MS1 from the KVM/cirrus-X11 problem 18:10:01 <Ilmehtar> I've seen some very weird issues with KVM in 12.2, the basics all seem fine, but stuff like Splice, which should be working, especially in GNOME Factory, seem to be really misbehaving 18:10:33 <bmwiedemann> there was also a problem with serial console in KVM 18:11:19 <bmwiedemann> bnc#779727 18:11:47 <poorboywilly> testing on a usb kde live cd was pretty smooth 18:11:58 <Ilmehtar> oh joy my bugzilla session timed out, now I get to play Novell authentication russian roulette 18:12:24 <bmwiedemann> Ilmehtar: I read they fixed the auth problems recently 18:12:38 <bmwiedemann> plus, to read a bug, you dont need to be logged in 18:12:41 <Ilmehtar> actually, that was the first smooth login I've had in months, so maybe they did 18:13:35 <Ilmehtar> true, it's a force of habit I have partner access and my day job has me looking at a lot of bugs for Novell bugs we use in the office.. and I need to login to see those 18:13:42 <bmwiedemann> I should soon try the USB-Live thing on my machines, too 18:14:13 <poorboywilly> I didn't test on my laptop though because the md5/sha1 sums did not match for the i586 image 18:15:18 <bmwiedemann> GNOME-i686 one? 18:16:52 <Ilmehtar> bmwiedemann: I guess we need to either package that reversion or see how quick qemu upstream is going to do the same 18:17:17 <poorboywilly> yes i686, but kde 18:18:02 <bmwiedemann> Ilmehtar: I packaged it, but it is still in my home repo only 18:18:13 <Holgi> I do not have any experiences with 12.2 yet 18:18:55 <Ilmehtar> bmwiedemann: and you want someone to test it..let me go grab my laptop ;-) 18:18:56 <bmwiedemann> Holgi: 12.2 runs much smoother than 12.1 (which had some kernel problems) 18:19:32 <Holgi> bmwiedemann: sorry typo, I mean 12.3 18:19:42 * Holgi is using 12.2 already 18:19:50 <Ilmehtar> Holgi: I agree, 12.2 for me has been one of those 'sweet spot' versions - normally as soon as we get the thing released I'm straight back on factory but I've been a slacker moving on from 12.2 18:19:55 <Ilmehtar> ahh, well, I still think 12.2 is awesome 18:21:30 <bmwiedemann> poorboywilly: just fetched the GNOME-i686 iso and it also has a mismatch of the md5sum - and that is no transmission problem, because rsync has internal checks 18:22:33 <Ilmehtar> same here, darn, thats what I was going to use 18:23:23 <bmwiedemann> I'd declare the checksums to be broken. Will check with coolo/adrian tomorrow 18:23:54 <poorboywilly> interestingly the signature seems to be fine 18:25:48 <bmwiedemann> looking at the timestamps, .iso and .asc are dated 2012-11-07 while the checksums are dated 2012-11-08 18:27:06 <bmwiedemann> might be related to recent OBS upgrades 18:27:24 <poorboywilly> shall I file a bug? 18:28:27 <bmwiedemann> poorboywilly: I'll do it 18:29:38 <bmwiedemann> for the time being, here is what I got from rsync: 18:29:38 <bmwiedemann> c81b90394f57fd4db9b56af73b6470db4d0258bd factory/iso/openSUSE-GNOME-LiveCD-i686-Build0166-Media.iso 18:29:38 <bmwiedemann> 2eb4771be09bbd05e323b3240b045e0d5e23552d factory/iso/openSUSE-GNOME-LiveCD-x86_64-Build0166-Media.iso 18:29:38 <bmwiedemann> 3e4a5a117df77b833e058af29ad12c92ac55e54c factory/iso/openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-i686-Build0166-Media.iso 18:29:38 <bmwiedemann> 8728455651d7318ded8fb8531c1905b25cb001db factory/iso/openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-x86_64-Build0166-Media.iso 18:29:45 <bmwiedemann> (sha1sum that is) 18:32:36 <Ilmehtar> thanks 18:33:33 <poorboywilly> yep that matches the KDE-i686 I downloaded 18:34:11 <bmwiedemann> it seems, the KDE-64 iso is the only one with matching checksums :) 18:34:28 <bmwiedemann> I would have expected all of them to be off - for the sake of consistency 18:38:02 <bmwiedemann> any other 12.3 testing experience to share? 18:39:10 <Ilmehtar> not from me - I hope to dramatically change that before the next meeting ;-) 18:40:12 <bmwiedemann> I hope we get factory installs back into a working state soon 18:42:15 <bmwiedemann> filed OBS bug (bnc#789295) 18:42:36 <bmwiedemann> so let's finish this topic then 18:43:36 <bmwiedemann> #topic schedule next meeting 18:43:48 <bmwiedemann> when shall we meet again? 18:44:32 <bmwiedemann> MS2 is due 2012-12-13 18:44:49 <bmwiedemann> so we could meet on 17th 18:45:49 <poorboywilly> that sounds reasonable 18:46:25 <Holgi> should be fine 18:46:39 <bmwiedemann> #agreed next meeting 2012-12-17 18:00 UTC 18:47:23 <bmwiedemann> #topic open discussion 18:48:50 <bmwiedemann> any parts that should be covered by openQA tests? 18:51:15 <poorboywilly> does it look at the checksums? :) 18:52:27 <bmwiedemann> there are no checksums for factory isos 18:52:49 <bmwiedemann> except the embedded ones 18:53:09 <bmwiedemann> but those are not checked yet. could be an extra variant, though 18:56:52 <bmwiedemann> will take a few minutes to integrate it 18:57:18 <bmwiedemann> any other topics you want to talk about? 18:58:22 <poorboywilly> we discussed last development cycle testing at least the initial loading of all applications, and having a tool that we could use mark off what has been tested 18:58:35 <poorboywilly> does such a tool exist, or does it need to be made? 19:00:02 <bmwiedemann> I once made http://openqa.opensuse.org/openqa/qatests/qa_runall.pl 19:00:52 <bmwiedemann> it will output, if the program backgrounded, blocked or exited by itself 19:00:59 <bmwiedemann> and how much output it produced 19:01:22 <bmwiedemann> but we still would need some smart way of post-processing such output 19:01:45 <bmwiedemann> (and it might not be safe to run - depending on what programs are installed) 19:02:01 <poorboywilly> true 19:02:47 <bmwiedemann> I can just add it after the tests, so it does not disturb the outcome 19:05:55 <bmwiedemann> mostly added mediacheck now 19:06:19 <bmwiedemann> we also had trouble with the rescue system in the past 19:06:53 <bmwiedemann> but that will be a bit more complicated 19:08:35 <bmwiedemann> OK. let's end today's meeting then 19:08:42 <bmwiedemann> thanks all for joining. 19:08:52 <bmwiedemann> I will add links to the logs on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting 19:08:53 <poorboywilly> thank you 19:09:01 <bmwiedemann> #endmeeting