16:02:29 #startmeeting oSC14 Organization meeting 16:02:29 Meeting started Thu Dec 12 16:02:29 2013 UTC. The chair is robjo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:02:30 yep! 16:02:47 hi SveborP , anditosan robjo warlordfff , TomoS , enola izabelvalverde 16:02:53 hello 16:02:53 The agenda was sent to the conference mailing list 16:03:24 lucijana, hi 16:03:24 Agenda: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_meeting 16:03:24 hello everyone! 16:03:49 I was pinged that the agenda should have been put to wiki, will try to fix it for the next meeting 16:04:17 The wiki is always a good idea so more people can put possible items for the meeting 16:04:19 SveborP: it's done, henne did it for this meeting 16:04:21 Is there already, I believe henne or Stella did it 16:04:32 there it is 16:04:52 :-) Great! I didn't check... I just stopped working, and jumped right into this meeting. 16:05:11 ok, let's start with logo choice right away? 16:05:27 henne: where you be? :D 16:05:28 * henne is gone: away 16:05:31 good 16:06:03 +1 for the red box with the tail, needs some more work IMHO but like the concept 16:06:16 any subjections to use crows 16:06:17 robjo: I agree, needs work! 16:06:27 robjo, I like the crow 16:06:48 Yes, it needs work, but I also like it most. 16:06:50 CarlosRibeiro: I love the crowns, I was thinking it could be something to wear at the conference 16:07:03 i vote for the red box with the tail as well 16:07:04 not that I don like the redbox but I believe the logo needs to have some medieval identity too 16:07:14 +1 it's the best choise, but needs more work 16:07:14 I am working on making a crown out of foam paper for this 16:07:29 warlordfff: I will wear it! 16:07:41 CarlosRibeiro, we could use crowns for something to wear 16:07:53 once I will finish it I wil send you a photo 16:07:54 robjo can you add the link easily here? 16:08:01 maybe we can mix the red box + any crow or include on that something that makes reference with the medieval croatia history 16:08:05 question, will we make baseball caps this year? 16:08:06 I have all of them opened 16:08:10 I think it will be a great accsorize 16:08:16 focus! 16:08:22 logo first :D 16:08:30 izabelvalverde: hugs! hehehehe 16:08:45 otherwise we will make SveborP crazy! 16:08:53 anditosan hugs :D 16:08:57 izabelvalverde: I do not have the link handy, anditosan? 16:08:59 izabelvalverde: the one who put us back in order LOL 16:09:04 just one tip, we didn't give - please don't use coat of arms like this: https://plus.google.com/photos/104830275042059445407/albums/5954095646508699377/5954107849200803042?banner=pwa&pid=5954107849200803042&oid=104830275042059445407 16:09:12 http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/anditosan/media/Logo_Proposal_4_zps6766829e.png.html 16:09:21 Thanks warlordfff 16:09:45 because... it is associated with nationalism locally .. not a vibe I wish for oSC14 to have :-) 16:09:46 the point is... the redbox with tail does not make any reference with the place history I mean... historically crows, kings, or something have more identity 16:09:51 or don't use coat if arms at all :) 16:09:57 anditosan: nothing dude, I still owe you a beer for last years logo :D 16:09:59 coat of arms 16:10:05 guys I didn't like http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/anditosan/media/Logo_Proposal_4_zps6766829e.png.html 16:10:08 hehe, that is more beers now 16:10:23 cool, ican take it 16:10:26 for me looks like part of debian curve and the box means nothing to me 16:10:43 izabelvalverde: me neither, that is why I was wondering if SveborP can use his illustrators to make it better 16:10:43 izabelvalverde, I completly agree 16:10:48 * warlordfff favorite https://plus.google.com/photos/104830275042059445407/albums/5954095646508699377/5954105680335115442?banner=pwa&pid=5954105680335115442&oid=104830275042059445407 16:11:06 We should ask lucijana, she would know much better 16:11:17 OK, people, this is the discussion that should have taken place on the mailing list! 16:11:18 but even that needs work 16:11:21 lucijana please? :) 16:11:41 :) well thanks for giving that much importance.. :) 16:11:53 well the one is Geecky, the other is more party-wave 16:11:54 motion to postpone the decision on th elogo to the next meeting, more discussion on the ML is needed 16:11:58 if we wont use the crowns.. they should be much simpler 16:11:59 I like them both tbh 16:12:32 robjo: I have an idea 16:12:40 lucijana do you think the motto should come first than logo decision? 16:12:52 anditosan, CarlosRibeiro? 16:12:53 imho.. the tail around cube got the potential. 16:13:03 why don't we leave the organizers to have the final vote on this? 16:13:04 But it shoul be illustrated better, 16:13:09 Well, can we use some sort of voting app online? somewhere on opensuse.org maybe? 16:13:24 SveborP: maybe it is too late for that 16:13:29 or maybe wait for some more choices. 16:13:39 or the motto! 16:13:39 It's good to have motto before logo. 16:13:43 but you can do an internal voting with just the commeettee 16:13:55 anditosan, yes, I do believe we should have a decision the sooner the better 16:14:01 yup 16:14:05 don't wait we are running out of time.... 16:14:06 anditosan internal with the organizers and committee :P 16:14:21 robjo: +1 16:14:29 robjo motion +1 16:14:33 ok, we will propose 2-3 logos to choose from and have internal vote? 16:14:35 izabelvalverde: +! 16:14:45 SveborP: +1 16:14:56 SveborP good! 16:15:30 #action core team to narrow logo choice to 2-3 options and decide 16:15:49 Good! 16:15:55 I suggest to do the same with the motto 16:16:18 warlordfff: +1 16:16:45 #action core team to narrow motto to 2-3 options and decide 16:16:46 ok, done. The core team will choose a few and then ask the committe to give a few more votes. same with motto, for which btw, we have 2 contenders 16:16:50 each with 2 votes 16:17:01 I believe the locals + and some openSUSEans to assure the combination on what the event in Croatia + openSUSE means 16:17:29 yeap 16:17:34 ok, I would definitely include a few artwork guys in that vote 16:17:41 ;) 16:17:51 no artwork guys 16:17:51 ie anditosan, carlosribeiro ? 16:17:55 no artwork guys 16:17:58 everyone has the option to voice their opinion on the ML, I am certain the team will take those into consideration 16:18:01 they are the devil 16:18:05 LOL 16:18:06 :-) 16:18:11 ok 16:18:14 warlordfff: grrr! 16:18:21 :P 16:18:26 maybe if we put some simpler crow inside the geeko tail will be perfect 16:18:41 Carlos Ribeiro, for you: ok, I would definitely include a few artwork guys in that vote 16:18:41 ;) 16:18:41 no artwork guys 16:18:41 ie anditosan, carlosribeiro ? 16:18:50 crown? or crow? 16:18:59 I am in favor of simple shapes, the more we put inside the logo, the less clear it will be 16:19:10 anditosan: +1 16:19:14 anditosan: +1 16:19:23 so you will be discussing between you first :D 16:19:37 anditosan, +1 16:19:39 anyway, we need to keep moving, we have reached action items for logo and moto 16:19:51 anditosan: +1 16:19:59 I say let's have SveborP illustrators revamp the current proposals and then present them for vote 16:20:18 ok, lucijana, can we do that? 16:20:26 sure. 16:20:34 Thanks guys! :D 16:20:36 ok with we work a little bit more in the red box + geeko tail I could probably vote on andy, but as it is I don't see any reference 16:20:36 deadline? 16:20:39 great 16:20:49 lucijana, a few days? 16:20:51 :-) 16:20:55 what about you establish a day for vote and that is your deadline 16:20:56 yep.. thats ok 16:21:09 monday, tuesday.. 16:21:16 tuesday :) 16:21:25 lucijana, +1 16:21:26 I like lucijana 16:21:31 :D 16:21:47 next? 16:21:50 ppl just to remind.. it�s not a simple logo, this will be used as reference for everything... so it's the conference identity 16:22:14 anditosan, for this logo you proposed ... what kind of motto really fits on that? 16:22:36 CarlosRibeiro: anything you want it to be 16:22:43 maybe should the opposite side to create motto and then logo 16:22:49 anditosan, no... itś not anything 16:22:54 the red box represents the squares for croatia 16:23:01 anditosan, because must have connection between logo and moto 16:23:29 a motto is not a logo, that is why I didn't make it thinking of a motto. Mottos are epxressed with words, not with logos imho 16:23:34 please, we have agreed on a course of action lets move on 16:23:35 a logo is to represent a brand 16:23:37 Ias example, I've create my proposals basea on the motto I sugessted, to have connection between them 16:24:04 next? 16:24:07 the tail logo could go nicely with the geeko kingdom motto 16:24:26 next is quick info on local activities 16:24:41 #topic info on local activities 16:24:57 We have been talking with head of Department of Enterprise, Tourism and the Sea of the city of Dubrovnik, Tomo went to a few meetings there 16:25:24 Are they welcoming? 16:25:32 we asked for support in form of free or cheaper public transportation, free City walls and museums pass; discount prices in restaurant(s) 16:26:01 and it will hapen to a greater or lesser extent 16:26:45 also, we have been given a contact in one tourist agency that would help negotiate private accomodations and hotels for Geekos we really hope to have some offers before Christmas 16:27:01 great 16:27:09 that's great! 16:27:18 Tomo talked with the owner of the agency and they will help. 16:28:38 But, one thing, both City of Dubrovnik and The agency (people in them) want is to get me to Dubrovnik for a meeting and introductions. I will try to arrange it at work so I can go, and probably take a few other core team members... 16:28:46 That would be lovely! A free ride around Croatia! I need me some sun rays right now! 16:28:54 :-D 16:29:13 it's actually cold and foggy here right now 16:29:22 jealous! 16:29:31 but in Dubrovnik.. its always sunny there :) 16:29:32 in Zagreb, it's probably nicer in Dubrovnik, TomoS would know.. 16:29:53 Yes, in Dubrovnik is sunny these days :) 16:30:08 it is nicer anywhere but in utah with -10 degrees hahaha 16:30:33 ah... lucky you TomoS . anyway, we'll see. If the trip to Dubrovnik can speed accommodation arrangements, we'll go. 16:30:37 :-) 16:31:04 so i know that is not time to talk about gifts, but when the time has come I would like to suggest geeko customized sun glasses 16:31:15 focus! :D 16:31:16 Moving on to FSFE, I exchanged a few emails with Karsten Gerloff 16:31:46 CarlosRibeiro: +1 and baseball caps 16:31:58 I think Karsten is fantastic! 16:32:07 can we please stick to the topic 16:32:15 baseball crowns :) 16:32:27 have FSFe with us would be great! 16:32:34 we proposed FSFE to be a community partner - keynote or lecture, depending on what the program committee agrees on later with him 16:32:46 and to put a booth there 16:33:10 +1 on FSFE 16:33:12 he will coordinate internally and let us know soon of the possibilities 16:33:27 SveborP, did you check if we will be able to handle LPI exam tests too 16:33:41 its a mix of CfP Team and Sponsors management 16:34:00 do we really want to have booths again? 16:34:01 this could help us to bring more attendees to the conference 16:34:12 did someone interview the booth people last year? 16:34:28 nop 16:34:30 when I went by them during the conf they where not too happy looking... 16:34:31 henne, they were unhappy? 16:34:43 I can say from GNOME perspective... its was boring! 16:34:48 yeah 16:34:54 well 16:34:56 most of them used their tables as hacking stations 16:35:02 MySQL guys left a day earlier 16:35:10 ok please pause 16:35:15 || 16:35:44 those guys who asked booths were responsible for them, but THEY asked for them 16:36:00 so it is a failure of them, not of the organization 16:36:20 its no failure at all 16:36:21 warlordfff we all know this 16:36:21 warlordfff, I kind of agree 16:36:23 I think is a good idea 16:36:33 it think it's just a bad fit 16:36:37 warlordfff: no one said it was an organizational problem, 16:36:56 but just look at it more carefull than we did in order to be better than last year 16:37:07 since is an openSUSE event people wants to be hanging between their pairs 16:37:08 warlordfff, now I agree 16:37:14 I am not taking it personaly, so that we are clear 16:37:25 Is just what I saw 16:37:30 so what should we do differently? 16:38:01 examine more carefull the suggestions for booths 16:38:03 I believe was both failure.. of course more from them than form us... but both needs to seet and arrange a better way to use the booth 16:38:10 but I have no idea how to do that 16:38:16 The way I see it, there are 2 options: more specific guidelines for booth keepers or we have a table next to reg desk for partners/sponsors' stuff (if they give us some that is) 16:38:25 if we have the space and a sponsor/partner wants a table we should have that possibility available 16:38:28 ah, ok. I proposed a booth to Karsten. do you think I should give him a tip about this year's booths being uninteresting? or maybe have no booths at all, instead have show-windows / tables something? 16:38:42 robjo: +1 16:38:57 robjo: of course. individual deals are always possible 16:39:02 robjo: +1 16:39:14 I think we should communicate that if you are getting a booth you are responsible to have people at all times and be there in time to prepare it with stuff. (no empty booth) 16:39:34 SveborP those willing to have booth you could see the venue possibility to offer otherwise just free tables for whatever is interesting in 16:39:34 but empty booths are not the problem 16:39:56 also we can use some voluteers inside the booth to help 16:40:06 CarlosRibeiro: nop 16:40:13 I mean NOP 16:40:23 the problem is that the booths simply don't have visitors 16:40:26 of course if they like to have some conference voluteer with them 16:40:29 openSUSE Volunteers are for other things 16:40:34 I don't think forcing a table/booth to be populated at all times is in our or their best interest 16:40:35 henne exactly 16:41:04 robjo i agree 16:41:26 robjo: actually we don't care :D 16:41:39 not having "visitors" to the booth is in a way the "operators" responsibility 16:41:52 agree with robjo and henne .. so we don't invite people to have booths? but provide the possibility for sponsors? 16:42:08 it is not a free software event, it is openSUSE event so who wants a booth will take care of it 16:42:12 Maybe in place of manning a booth we can have more printed materials to guide our visitors 16:42:15 at larger conferences the organizers usually do a "booth crawl" contest, get a stamp for everyone and get entered to win something 16:42:15 I would like to see more foreign talks instead of booths 16:42:18 robjo, exactly. they should tempt people with candy, food or whatever 16:42:23 foreign == other projects 16:42:31 I would not favor such an approach for oSC 16:42:36 let's invite GNOME to hold a talk about it's future instead a booth 16:42:51 let's invite Gentoo to hold a talk about their release process 16:42:58 robjo, but we are not able to help to have booth more croweded somehow? 16:43:15 henne GNOME wasn't there last year due to Guadec but the GNOME Board loved to be invited 16:43:16 henne, what about have a distro booth instead of single one for each distro 16:43:17 henne, +1 on inviting various projects 16:43:17 let's invite Mozilla to tell us about FirefoxOS development 16:43:30 CarlosRibeiro: I do not think we want to take on that responsibility 16:43:38 robjo, ok 16:43:44 that should be the participation of other projects. not booth's 16:43:46 CarlosRibeiro: why do that? 16:44:06 I shared booth in some events here with other distros and works pertty good 16:44:25 yeap but not an oSC event 16:44:27 CarlosRibeiro free software events not openSUSE event 16:44:34 robjo, but I understand your point, but was another kind of event 16:44:43 izabelvalverde, yeap 16:44:51 ;) 16:45:08 I think we should take the same approach we take with th e"jobs board", having a table/booth is an option available, but that's it, nothing more, nothing less 16:45:23 let whomever may be interested in that option make their own decision 16:45:52 right, I agree with that. 16:46:21 from sponsorship finder perspective offer a booth is a problem! 16:46:22 This implies some changes in the wording in the sponsor brochure, but that's about the extend of the work we would have to do 16:46:46 izabelvalverde, what do you mean? 16:47:15 We should ping Jos about this, they are finishing up a design for their booth box and that would be a good place to showcase the new design 16:47:20 Instead of saying "A booth is part of the package" we say "you have the option of having a booth/table" 16:47:29 SveborP the sponsors waste a lot of time concerning how about will be the booth, their material, hardware and so on 16:48:02 On this brochure: https://conference.opensuse.org/files/oSC13_Sponsorship_Brochure.pdf 16:48:06 izabelvalverde, are you saying that providing booth to sponsors could make harder to find sponsors ready to willing with 16:48:09 and some of those material take more than 2 months to arrive(I remember Oracle bow) 16:48:14 it says "Booth space is available" 16:48:20 CarlosRibeiro no 16:48:31 not mandatory.. 16:48:36 SveborP: exactly 16:48:49 so I see no problem? 16:49:04 they know they can have it 16:49:06 if they want it 16:49:09 SveborP robjo I'm working in a new brochure and talked to SUSE to set the approval sooner you guys approve the proposal 16:49:35 SveborP they can but don't need to be part of the package 16:49:57 izabelvalverde, ah, ok. didn't know that. Would you join our Trello team so we can easier coordinate? 16:50:18 Well, by adding "you can choose" or "at your discretion" it makes it more explicit that it as a choice rather than an "obligation" 16:50:33 I can but I don't think the brochure creation is a trello task yet 16:50:38 "Booth space is available" more expresses an obligation 16:50:52 but I can imagine how that puts pressure on sponsors 16:50:54 available upon request 16:51:05 if all the other sponsors have booths, you'd better have one too 16:51:27 henne, true that. 16:51:32 or we dont mention booths but the fact that they can send stuff 16:51:36 it has many other things involved such as the getting money process and those who is in discussion about it probably won't join Trello either 16:51:39 if they want a booth they will ask for it themselves 16:51:54 differentreality, available upon request sound fine 16:52:06 differentreality, I liked you idea 16:52:19 booth will be mentioned but not part of the package 16:52:22 upon request let then freely to choose 16:52:32 izabelvalverde: I tasked the artwork part of the sponsors brochure and put it first in the list https://trello.com/c/YU2hYUKr/42-artwork-for-sponsors-brochure 16:53:18 differentreality: the card is empty and has no people assigned to it, I didn't know about it until now 16:53:33 differentreality we need the approval first otherwise will be like last year, 9 different arts done until the context being approved 16:53:33 #info we will reword the booth/table "offering" in the brochure to make it more explicit that this is a choice of the sponsor, not intricately tied to the sponsor offering 16:53:34 We can come up with some idea 16:53:35 ideas 16:53:40 anditosan: true, that's probably because I created this morning :) So go ahead and subscribe :D 16:53:48 ;) 16:53:48 ok so the conclusion is.. community partners will be warned about booths unpopularity, if they want it they can have it.. sponsors will have the same thing in the brochure.. and that is that? 16:54:22 (not the same thing, just conveniently out of the package) 16:54:43 I think so... nicely saying that happens cause it is a specific community event 16:55:02 possibly better wording than 'booths unpopularity' 16:55:19 of course :-) 16:55:53 booths are not "unpopular" by design, I bet one could create much traffic to a booth with the appropriate effort 16:56:04 Are we good with this subject? Are we moving on? 16:56:06 candy or coffee 16:56:13 let's move on 16:57:08 #topic Help needed with writing announcements, organizational activities 16:57:18 #topic Help needed with writing announcements, organizational activities 16:57:26 excellent, thank youž 16:57:37 I offer myself to do editign 16:57:43 if it is in English, I can help 16:58:00 we need to send out the first announcement and let people know they can make flight reservations 16:58:07 there is a new effort inside Marketing Team and we are all willing to help 16:58:10 anditosan: thanks 16:58:13 and then we need CFP 16:58:21 announcements drafts https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OXw9yZKNAtYQLxrv7hz0bKDE6jGaYwCoAXFcW1fX4TQ/edit?usp=drive_web 16:58:38 accommodation will be taken care of later and bookings can be made separately.. 16:58:40 someone believes that is good to have the same announcment in other languages? if so I can help with the portuguese 16:58:41 anditosan, tank you! 16:58:52 of course! 16:58:54 differentreality can you share on marketing-ml? 16:58:55 Bookmarked!!! 16:59:04 izabelvalverde: sure I can :) 16:59:09 we will translate to croatian and send to interested communities in the region 16:59:09 thank you :D 16:59:12 robjo: plz task me ? 16:59:19 or action me 16:59:20 CfP, differentreality has sent out the initial "get up and get moving" e-mail to the team, no reaction yet, but we'll get going this week, I suspect 16:59:44 action me too 17:00:05 ok sorry forget the aboce 17:00:10 ok sorry forget the above 17:00:45 robjo: I am working on it 17:00:48 great, let's set a deadline to push out the initial announcement? 17:00:54 IMHO we should work to have an announcement out mid next week that will include the CfP dates 17:01:12 but we have a case with the Business track 17:01:33 Excellent! Mid next week sound fine 17:02:06 warlordfff, what do you mean? 17:02:08 there's been no serious objection to having a business track, I think it is up to the CfP to set the parameters and then offer it 17:02:17 robjo, +1 17:02:17 After Wednesday please.... the new Board announcement will happen Monday and Tuesday we might still collecting comments 17:02:26 robjo: +1 17:02:33 robjo: I have a serious objections if we don't define it 17:02:35 if we get submissions we'll have it, if not it will not happen 17:02:43 when are those dates? 17:02:43 I am confused 17:02:43 whether or not to have a business track 17:03:02 are we having or not a Business track? 17:03:04 henne: that's why I said, it is up to the CfP to set the framework/definition 17:03:28 ok 17:03:33 differentreality warlordfff how it was in oSC13? 17:03:35 so let's go to the Ml and propose dates 17:03:52 warlordfff: +1 17:03:53 the business track I meant 17:03:54 we did not had a Business track 17:03:54 votes for business track? 17:04:12 we cant really vote on it before we define it I guess 17:04:15 warlordfff: +1 17:04:18 no? Hans and Georg not business track? 17:04:25 on Business I say let's get those talks in Geeko Tech 17:04:27 izabelvalverde, they are 17:04:42 The CfP team will need to know from the TSP team timing for TSP request approval 17:04:55 6 weeks prior to the event, or earlier? 17:04:55 izabelvalverde: they were not named Business tracks 17:05:13 I would agree on ^ weeks 17:05:14 warlordfff, where did they fit? 17:05:28 but they were, people liked? 17:05:29 If it is for international flights, I would say TSP needs to happen way earlier 17:05:41 CarlosRibeiro: I don't remember but they were not Business tracks 17:05:44 Business track for me means that people with an opensource app that runs on opensuse present it. Not much different than presenting your gsoc project excepft for the fact that we name it business track and that it is of interest to companies / startups and it might help local team to attract local sponsors or state sponsorship 17:06:00 well, having a business track would be another way to call our decision on whether we call out to people to give talks on how they do business using openSUSE, free software and such. These might be technical or completely non-technical talks. that is how I see it. But it should be defined better, yes. 17:06:28 explained in a nicer way in cfp announcement 17:06:44 Let the CfP team define the framework and present it on the ML 17:06:47 I believe the TSP will work in 2 rounds again to assure more time to people apply considering the CfP deadline 17:06:58 yeap 17:07:13 robjo, that would be a good solution, yes. 17:07:28 izabelvalverde: are we releasing the TSP along with the Cfp announcement? 17:07:43 izabelvalverde: warlordfff are you OK with CfP close 6 weeks prior to the event and decisions made 5 weeks prior to the event? 17:08:01 I am ok 17:08:38 robjo We can make a call earlier than 6 weeks and the second call in the 5 weeks prior 17:08:41 let's take the oSC13 approach and get a public schedule together as soon as possible 17:08:52 henne: +1 17:08:52 it's one of the main incentives for people to come 17:09:08 +1 17:09:12 henne: 5 weeks is too late? 17:09:23 last year's approach was no deadline to cfp basically 17:09:27 yeah 17:09:44 your proposal? 17:09:45 no deadline. give intermediate status updates about the fullness of the schedule 17:09:55 izabelvalverde: lets make the TSP call along with the CFP call 17:10:00 urge people that it's filling quickly 17:10:06 we had an initial deadline last year 17:10:16 with no deadline people will not submit, I think 17:10:25 warlordff we can't otherwise we might leave approved speakers out 17:10:32 I would rather except "late submissions" than have nothing 17:10:45 we can announce together but we definitely need 2 rounds for decision 17:10:47 izabelvalverde: yeap, you have a point :| 17:11:02 I am with henne on that one, I can see people submitting faster if they know that we won't wait until the deadline to accept talks 17:11:05 I think we should have an earlier deadline 17:11:12 then extend it 17:11:22 I am not talking about acceptance 17:11:27 ok let's make it 8 weeks? 17:11:37 February 28, that would be 2 month 17:11:56 you know that we have like 16 weeks to the event right? 17:11:57 the problem is not the number of weeks but the number of submissions 17:12:07 robjo: but that is the expectation people have. i can submit 2 minutes before the deadline and have the same chance as submitting earl 17:12:10 y 17:12:18 WE can probably get our act together and open Cfp IN the first week of January, thus abou 7 weeks for submitting proposals 17:12:31 izabelvalverde: +1 but you never know 17:12:54 well, look the last 2 years for oSC and Summit ;) 17:12:56 I believe extended could specially help for local people that does not needs to have a huge plan to attendee 17:13:07 robjo: actually we can do that next week 17:13:12 henne: we can certainly put in a clause that says we will start confirming talks say at the beginning of Feburaray 17:13:16 if we work fast 17:13:32 Fosdem will be a place to advertise so a call just after will help a lot 17:13:41 robjo: I fear people need to be hit over the head with this 17:13:46 warlordfff: be nice to have the logo, motto and all the tracks nailed down before we open, I think next week is too tight 17:13:50 which means no fine-print ;) 17:13:51 or before to communicate at fosdem that cfp is actually already open! 17:13:57 if the deadline is shorter and the idea is in their mind they might run to submit 17:14:01 robjo: yeap you also got a point 17:14:14 henne: sorry I miss your fine print concern 17:14:22 give me a sec to write this up 17:14:37 robjo: dates work for deadlines, clauses not. 17:14:44 imho 17:14:53 izabelvalverde, good poiunt but will we have conference material to show during fosdem, like videos or flyers.. promo material? 17:15:07 like we had last year 17:15:23 we will work for it... at least from Marketing perspective 17:15:43 something should be at fosdem, a flyer at least 17:15:47 oSC14 is on our marketing list 17:15:49 CfP open on XXX The Cfp Team will start confirming submission on YYY. The final deadline for submission is on ZZZ 17:15:56 where XXX < YYY < ZZZ 17:16:13 +1 17:17:04 I'm willing to try that :-) 17:17:32 so no deadline extensions? 17:17:50 #info CfP team to take under advisement that we want to start populating the schedule as early as possible 17:18:04 SveborP: the deadline extension can happen if need be 17:18:17 if the program is full on ZZZ we don't need to extend 17:18:35 robjo please include that CfP notice the TSP about the plans 17:18:47 ok 17:18:48 SveborP, we used some promo video for OSC13 during Fosdem and works perfectly as we had two big monitors.. dont we have no one able to create a video over there? of course we could do flyers, promo cube, geeko money and tux paper again, but video was awesome 17:18:54 #info CfP team to keep TSP in the loop about dates 17:19:02 thank you 17:19:32 #info absolute deadline to deal with someone that wants to be sponsored and give a talki is 6 weeks prior to the event 17:19:43 Awesome! Is it time to move on? 17:20:02 robjo also Marketing team to start to prepare materials as soon the motto and artwork is decided 17:20:11 please? :D thank you 17:20:22 #action Marketing team to start to prepare materials as soon the motto and artwork is decided 17:20:38 :D thanks 17:20:39 if we're all ok with moving on, only one thing left. scheduled IRC meetings.. 17:20:59 so probably will be after tuesday when we will finished the moto and logo, right? 17:21:02 one more next week I'd say 17:21:15 Thursday again? 17:21:32 then weekly starting possibly late January 17:21:44 +1 Thursday at this time 17:21:47 sounds fine. we can always schedule more meetings if needed 17:22:04 weekly - Thursdays? 17:22:07 +1 next thursday 17:22:24 izabelvalverde: can you handle the calendar entries? 17:22:34 asking because maybe it could already go to the wiki calendar 17:22:37 January second week would be great to present what marketing team have done to be used in Fosdem 17:22:39 +1 next Thursday, same time 17:22:41 +1 next thursday 17:22:50 robjo sure 17:23:00 +1 next week, and then starting with second January week? 17:23:14 ok, next meeting next Thursday, same time same place 17:23:28 anything else? 17:23:31 let's use one of those calendars? https://news.opensuse.org/2013/11/26/opensuse-conference-2014/ and https://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/28/osc-meeting/ 17:23:46 not from me, anyone want to add something else? 17:23:55 Nope! :D 17:23:59 website 17:23:59 ok, then another one in Jan 9th and the rest we can decide after 17:24:10 is there anyone already involved? 17:24:19 izabelvalverde: yup 17:24:27 robjo ok 17:24:28 henne, said he started doing something at some point 17:24:35 (website) 17:24:55 right henne? :-) 17:25:04 henne, ? 17:25:13 henne? 17:25:15 hahhaa 17:25:21 he fell asleep 17:25:22 can we simply replace the content for last years design? 17:25:38 differentreality we are using https://news.opensuse.org/2013/11/26/opensuse-conference-2014/ but we can change if you want 17:25:40 sorry, I'm having 6 different conversations at one 17:25:42 maybe we can make a wordpress that is easier to manage 17:25:44 once 17:25:45 what? 17:25:45 I guess we could.. we just need a few nice photos of Dubrovnik 17:26:01 ah conf.o.o yeah 17:26:12 we're currently moving OSEM to events.o.o 17:26:14 henne: can we simply use last years web framework and replace the content? 17:26:18 and once I'm finished with that 17:26:21 izabelvalverde: the other one is linked to the wiki page of osc (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_meeting) I dont mind either way as long as we finalize it and we put the correct one in the wiki 17:26:24 I can come up with some design... 17:26:30 and content 17:26:33 henne: I can help! 17:26:46 anditosan: I'm counting on it :-) 17:26:53 ping me when you're ready! 17:26:57 k! 17:27:17 cool, come to Trello? :-) 17:27:54 done? 17:27:59 ah that's also someting I wanted to talk about 17:28:07 why don't we have 3 boards again? 17:28:12 henne, same as here, just ping about website 17:28:20 but only one. I find this highly confusing... 17:29:04 I found the three boards confusing more, but we do have labels! so if there's only one set of activities you want to do, just remember the color you need 17:29:38 I mean, we can always make additional boards if needed 17:30:08 the TODO list is now already way too long IMHO 17:30:34 I don't find squad :-) 17:30:49 and we're not even beginning to have cards... 17:31:07 but anyway. I wasn't much involved yet. just raising my concerns 17:31:12 i just click filter in the menu on the right... :-) 17:31:38 but, others agree, lets reorganize? 17:31:48 #info some concerns about trello task organization, to be worked out as we go along 17:31:49 *if others agree 17:32:10 done? 17:32:19 done 17:32:24 #endmeeting