18:11:06 <zoumpis> #startmeeting 18:11:06 <bugbot> Meeting started Tue Jul 26 18:11:06 2011 UTC. The chair is zoumpis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:11:06 <bugbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:11:45 <zoumpis> Welcome to the openSUSE Medical Project , July 2011 , IRC Meeting 18:12:03 <saigkill> Hello 18:12:10 <oy> hello 18:12:17 <SatManUK> hello 18:12:18 <amonthoth> hello 18:12:49 <zoumpis> so.. 18:13:03 <zoumpis> *News and Announcements 18:14:09 <zoumpis> First of all i would like to thank saigkill (Sascha Manns) for his help around the project and also diamond_gr (Efstathio Eiosifidis) , who suggested me to "take part" in the project 18:14:35 <saigkill> thank you too 18:14:42 <diamond_gr> welcome... 18:15:20 <zoumpis> Furthermore as you all now (http://news.opensuse.org/2011/06/09/new-leadership-inside-the-medical-project/) the Project Leader changed at July 9th 18:16:00 <zoumpis> after two years of working and leading the Project has stepped down 18:16:10 <zoumpis> well 18:16:13 <zoumpis> Sascha 18:17:13 <zoumpis> we will apreciate to inform us about your experience in the project , and your ideas + thoughts of course 18:17:39 <zoumpis> *the Project Leader has stepped down 18:18:30 <saigkill> In the time as i has read todays topic i was really pacified. 18:18:46 <saigkill> You have planned the next steps very good. 18:19:01 <saigkill> And i'm very impressed how fast this was happend. 18:19:29 <saigkill> So i think we are on a good way now. With Translations, Documentations and so far. 18:19:40 <zoumpis> that's sounds interesting 18:19:40 <saigkill> I think we are on a very good way 18:19:43 <zoumpis> thanks 18:19:48 <zoumpis> that's right 18:20:25 <zoumpis> well to inform all of you 18:20:35 <zoumpis> the Topics are available here 18:20:35 <zoumpis> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Medical_meetings/ 18:20:54 <zoumpis> *New Leadership , Plans and Thoughts 18:21:47 <zoumpis> As a new leader , me and all of we will try to do the best 18:21:56 <zoumpis> importing more applications 18:22:16 <zoumpis> build the distro via the KIWI toolset 18:22:35 <zoumpis> and of course to include Gnome interface also 18:23:02 <zoumpis> and finally to translate the applications included 18:23:08 <zoumpis> any doubts? 18:23:27 <saigkill> One of the best sites i've found about medical software was: http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/ 18:23:36 <saigkill> Very good structured 18:23:51 <zoumpis> that's right 18:24:15 <zoumpis> in debian med project many applications are included 18:24:59 <zoumpis> so some changes could be made at the wiki :) 18:25:06 <zoumpis> others? 18:27:02 <zoumpis> welcome differntreality 18:27:11 <differentreality> hey :) 18:27:24 <zoumpis> so we continue to the second topic 18:27:28 <saigkill> hi differentreality 18:27:37 <zoumpis> *Report From openSUSE Collaboration Camp (15-17 of July 2011 , Greece) 18:28:42 <zoumpis> As an openSUSE Community here in Greece we organised a Collaboration 18:28:48 <zoumpis> Camp in Katerini 18:28:59 <saigkill> How many ppl was there? 18:29:09 <zoumpis> about 20 18:29:15 <oy_> sounds cool, are there any photos? 18:29:15 <saigkill> cool. not bad 18:29:28 <zoumpis> you can take a look at this link http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Collaboration_weekend_camp2011 18:30:06 <differentreality> photos and videos will be also uploaded soon! 18:30:11 <zoumpis> +1 18:30:16 <zoumpis> that's right 18:30:33 <differentreality> and can I just say how great it was and that I'm so looking forward to doing something similar again! 18:30:49 <zoumpis> Presentation, Translation Fest , Discussions and a lot of beers :) 18:30:56 <differentreality> and swimming! 18:31:00 <zoumpis> yes 18:31:13 <zoumpis> we would like to inform you 18:31:23 <zoumpis> that people from other communities 18:31:30 <zoumpis> took part in the Camp 18:31:57 <zoumpis> (Gentoo-el community, TheHackerspace) 18:32:19 <differentreality> and kde and gnome 18:32:26 <zoumpis> of course 18:32:48 <zoumpis> all the presentation was very interesting 18:33:06 <zoumpis> and the event finished 18:33:15 <zoumpis> with the openSUSE Medical Presentation 18:33:46 <zoumpis> i presented the Project and what is the openSUSE Medical Distro 18:34:24 <zoumpis> as well as the openEMR ( Installation, Configuration , and a bit of usage) 18:34:41 <saigkill> Sounds good... 18:34:46 <zoumpis> yes 18:35:17 <saigkill> Maybe we can preconfigure in SUSE Studio an mysql database for that 18:35:28 <zoumpis> people asked about the openEMR and gave a piece of advice about some security issues 18:35:38 <tampakrap> or even better upload your own openemr 18:35:46 <tampakrap> and give to the people an already populated db 18:35:55 <zoumpis> +1 18:36:01 <saigkill> +1 18:36:06 <shilbert> +1 18:36:17 <zoumpis> that;s would be my next sentence tampakrap 18:36:19 <zoumpis> thnx 18:36:33 <diamond_gr> +1 18:37:18 <SatManUK> +1 18:37:35 <shilbert> give people something to play with, I see many in Ubuntu space that want to try something 18:37:41 <zoumpis> preinstall the MySql db would be the best idea in case somebody would like to use the openEMR and maybe not an other EMR application.. 18:38:17 <shilbert> yes, preinstallation is good for the project 18:38:18 <zoumpis> it's very easy to play.. i think 18:38:22 <zoumpis> yes 18:38:26 <zoumpis> i think so too 18:39:01 <zoumpis> that's goes to topic "Add new software to the distro" 18:39:54 <zoumpis> also we would like to thank all the non-openSUSE Communities for their participation , feedback and presentations 18:40:45 <shilbert> fedora has a nice packaging drive going on I believe 18:40:46 <zoumpis> as we all know diamond_gr is a member of Gnome Foundation , he made a very intersting presentation about GNOME 3.0 18:40:57 <zoumpis> welcome maggot 18:41:01 <shilbert> saves openSUSE a lot of work I guess 18:41:11 <zoumpis> excactly 18:41:34 <saigkill> shilbert: What do you mean with "packaging drive"? Anything like OBS? 18:41:47 <zoumpis> but some packages in medical repo have been packaged before Fedora or Debian 18:41:56 <zoumpis> :) 18:41:57 <shilbert> no, there is one guy pretty active 18:42:11 <saigkill> ah ok 18:42:20 <zoumpis> well 18:42:38 <zoumpis> i have to tell more about the Collaboration camp 18:42:58 <zoumpis> we would like to thank Theodoros Chatzimichos (tampakrap) 18:43:10 <zoumpis> for his presentation (Django) 18:43:29 <differentreality> presentation/workshop ;) 18:43:36 <zoumpis> and wish him good luck with the GSOC project in which he is no working 18:43:48 <zoumpis> presentation and also 2 workshops 18:43:53 <zoumpis> as we all know 18:44:03 <zoumpis> he is workigng 18:44:07 <zoumpis> excuse me 18:44:15 <oy_> np 18:44:26 <zoumpis> welcome susetroll 18:44:32 <zoumpis> the Collaboration 18:44:55 <zoumpis> Camp was a very interesting and funcy event 18:45:04 <zoumpis> where also people from TheHackerspace took part in 18:45:29 <zoumpis> making a presentation + workshop for arduino 18:45:48 <zoumpis> hope to see you in the next Collaboration Event in Greece! 18:45:54 <zoumpis> we have to carry on... 18:46:05 <zoumpis> *openSUSE Conference Participation ( 11-14 of September 2011, Nürnberg) 18:46:21 <zoumpis> That's a very intersting topic 18:47:07 <zoumpis> To begin with , unfortunately i won't take part in the Conference because i begin my Master Studies in Spain at 5th of September.. 18:47:40 <zoumpis> so who's going to take part in the conference 18:47:41 <zoumpis> ? 18:47:54 * saigkill does it 18:48:11 <zoumpis> ok 18:48:17 <differentreality> I am! And I'm looking forward to it 18:48:23 <diamond_gr> +1` 18:48:26 <zoumpis> sounds good!!! 18:48:30 <oy_> me too 18:48:35 <tampakrap> real men go to summit 18:48:40 <oy_> ? 18:49:02 <zoumpis> ok tampakrap! 18:49:08 <differentreality> lol tampakrap 18:49:09 <diamond_gr> tampakrap: missed it :-( 18:49:28 <diamond_gr> tampakrap: why don't u join oSc? 18:49:35 <zoumpis> well the the plan is to have a video presentation 18:49:42 <zoumpis> of the project 18:50:13 <zoumpis> i had to "declare" the presentation 18:50:25 <zoumpis> but i my pc is very close to be broken so... 18:50:35 <zoumpis> any doubts , ideas? 18:51:28 <zoumpis> welcome andre 18:52:01 <oy_> zoumpis: are'nt there presentation computers and one needs just a stick? 18:52:34 <zoumpis> yes but i have to present the Project , but it's impossible to be here... 18:52:47 <zoumpis> if anyone can present , no prob 18:53:01 <zoumpis> :) 18:53:57 <saigkill> for me its difficult. Because i'm holding one BoF and one Workshop... 18:54:17 <zoumpis> if anybody can present the project , we can share a Google Doc...and make a "brainstorm" 18:54:22 <zoumpis> yes i know saigkill 18:55:44 <zoumpis> any one intersting to present the project? the presentation at this case would be "build" under collaboration... 18:56:37 <zoumpis> ? 18:57:11 <zoumpis> think about it in two miutes i'll be bacj 18:57:12 <zoumpis> k 18:58:46 <SatManUK> is it possible to build the apps using kde rather than gnome? 19:01:46 <zoumpis> i'm back 19:02:51 <SatManUK> wb 19:03:06 <zoumpis> well the plan is to include apps no matter gui you use , but building apps for both kde and gnome can be incuded (Add new software) 19:03:08 <zoumpis> (Topic) 19:03:09 <zoumpis> so 19:04:00 <zoumpis> any ideas about the conference? 19:04:25 <zoumpis> ? 19:05:05 <zoumpis> well guys 19:05:37 <zoumpis> vote! 19:06:24 <zoumpis> is anybody there? 19:06:28 <diamond_gr> why don't you send a mail to mailing list for ideas? 19:07:13 <zoumpis> yes but i have to declaration of the presentations lasted yesterday 19:07:33 <differentreality> what do you mean ?! 19:08:13 <zoumpis> waihttp://news.opensuse.org/2011/07/22/last-call-for-opensuse-conference-papers/ 19:08:31 <zoumpis> i mean this 19:08:50 <zoumpis> so to brainstorm more ideas 19:09:02 <zoumpis> i "declare" a presentation 19:09:45 <zoumpis> and after the meeting i will send an e-mail to the list 19:10:21 <zoumpis> so in 1 week we will decide about the presentation of the project 19:10:26 <zoumpis> Guys vote 19:10:29 <zoumpis> ! 19:11:14 <zoumpis> (bad english = "declare presentation" = submit presentation) 19:11:24 <oy_> vote among what alternatives? 19:12:04 <zoumpis> yes 19:12:38 <differentreality> It is not clear to me either what's up for voting :/ 19:12:46 <zoumpis> video or a simple presentation (made Google Docs) ? 19:12:47 <oy_> "vote" means to select from existing stuff 19:12:59 <zoumpis> yes i agree 19:13:00 <oy_> ah 19:13:25 <zoumpis> is it ok oy? 19:13:40 <oy_> understand now 19:13:50 <diamond_gr> video is better I think 19:14:52 <zoumpis> so who are in favour of a video presentation ? 19:15:19 <differentreality> I think physical presence is better if there is someone who can do it. 19:15:25 <oy_> +1 19:15:53 <zoumpis> others? 19:16:06 <zoumpis> express your opinion pleas 19:16:06 <zoumpis> e 19:16:39 <amonthoth> physical presentation with video support showing your achievements and what is needed to get beyond 19:17:11 <zoumpis> ok amonthoth 19:17:53 <zoumpis> so we vote physical presentation right? 19:18:21 <differentreality> yep that would be ideal 19:18:29 <zoumpis> ok 19:18:31 <zoumpis> so 19:18:43 <zoumpis> who is interesting to present the project? 19:19:40 <differentreality> now, if no one can take on this, you have to go to video I guess :/ 19:19:56 <zoumpis> that's right.. 19:20:51 <zoumpis> So a video presentation without physical presentation will be the Project's Presentation 19:21:02 <zoumpis> We carry on to the next topic 19:21:11 <zoumpis> *openSUSE Medical 11.4 Feedback 19:22:09 <zoumpis> I would like your feedback from openSUSE Medical 11.4 distro 19:22:59 <zoumpis> and what do you want to be included in the next release so the Topic is 19:23:06 * saigkill is back. Sorry Desktop was freezed 19:23:16 <zoumpis> ok 19:23:44 <amonthoth> atm downloading oS114-Medical 19:23:48 <zoumpis> *openSUSE Medical 11.4 Feedback + Milestone 1 : Add new software in the distro (aka packaging new software) 19:24:44 <zoumpis> yes amonthoth told before the meeting why the distro is not availble via torrent and why do a user have to make an account in Suse Studio so as to download the iso... 19:25:38 <zoumpis> so #action next release available in torrent (link will be at the wiki page of the Project) 19:25:57 <oy_> good idea 19:26:00 <tampakrap> remove the "so" 19:26:24 <zoumpis> ok 19:27:03 <zoumpis> anyone else to express opinion about 11.4 feedback? 19:27:13 <tampakrap> #action blah blah 19:27:26 <amonthoth> torrent and bypassing the account validation in susegallery would help a faster distribution 19:28:32 <zoumpis> #action next release available in torrent (link will be at the wiki page of the Project) 19:29:27 <oy_> #help 19:29:35 <tampakrap> !help 19:29:38 <tampakrap> bugbot: help 19:29:38 <bugbot> tampakrap: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 19:30:19 <zoumpis> well continue with the next topic 19:30:29 <zoumpis> * Milestone 1 : Add new software in the distro (aka packaging new software) 19:30:44 <zoumpis> so here is a very interesting part 19:31:09 <zoumpis> which do you want to be included in the next distro release? 19:32:32 <zoumpis> my thought was to include : 1) openmolar : https://translations.launchpad.net/openmolar 19:32:45 <zoumpis> 2) shelterManager 19:32:53 <diamond_gr> +1 19:32:58 <zoumpis> 3) GNUHealth 19:33:36 <zoumpis> and of course an application about diabetics 19:33:47 <zoumpis> 4) Gnu gluco control 19:34:06 <zoumpis> (available at http://ggc.sourceforge.net/) 19:34:29 <differentreality> right, we referred to these during the camp too. Sounds good to offer this software as well, giving users more options 19:35:04 <zoumpis> 3) GnuHealth is the openERP with the hospital module included , http://medical.sourceforge.net/ 19:35:19 <zoumpis> so any more ideas from the others? 19:35:49 <zoumpis> and also the pre-installation of LAMP , 19:36:22 <differentreality> definitely that 19:36:44 <zoumpis> ok! 19:37:18 <saigkill> GNU Health sounds good. Better than just EMR 19:37:19 <amonthoth> Praat and Psignifit 19:37:42 <zoumpis> ok 19:38:41 <differentreality> warlordfff, hey 19:38:46 <zoumpis> so we have 1) openmolar 2) shetlerManager 3) GnuHealth 4) GnuGluco Control 5) LAMP 6) Praat 7) Psignifit 19:38:54 <zoumpis> welcome warlodff 19:39:12 <warlordfff> hey 19:39:33 <zoumpis> all the above software (except from LAMP) is "un-packed" so we need volunteers to "pack" the source code 19:39:41 <warlordfff> just finished my duty 19:39:54 <zoumpis> so we need volunteers to pack the apps 19:40:10 <zoumpis> any volunteers? 19:41:23 <zoumpis> anyone interesting for these apps 19:41:24 <zoumpis> ? 19:42:43 <differentreality> I don't really know how to do it... so.. :/ 19:42:59 <diamond_gr> I can only translate to our language 19:42:59 <zoumpis> .. 19:43:23 <zoumpis> i will anounce the apps in the mailing list 19:43:59 <zoumpis> #action announce the applications to be included in the mailing-list 19:44:26 <differentreality> and basically ask for volunteers to do the packaging right ? 19:44:35 <zoumpis> excactly 19:44:45 <amonthoth> we need some training how to pack source code for opensuse rpm 19:44:57 <zoumpis> and maybe at opensuse-buildservice 19:45:30 <saigkill> Maybe we can ask on opensuse-packaging. So we can mabe do an IRC Training Course 19:45:39 <differentreality> so zoumpis maybe you could focus on giving us some input regarding how to do it - that way we could also volunteer 19:45:48 <zoumpis> you can download the OBS documentation from here 19:45:48 <differentreality> or what saigkill just said :) 19:45:48 <zoumpis> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service 19:46:02 <zoumpis> ok 19:46:21 <amonthoth> saigkill, +1 19:46:25 <zoumpis> #action ask opensuse-packaging for IRC Training Course 19:46:28 <diamond_gr> saigkill: +1 19:46:34 <zoumpis> saigkill _1 19:46:37 <zoumpis> +1 19:47:27 <zoumpis> so we carry on 19:47:55 <amonthoth> we can invite more people to this training by mailing list 19:48:13 <zoumpis> * Milestone 3.1 : Translation of included applications (openEMR,GnuMed, FreemedForms) + Milestone 3.2 : Translation of the non-imported software (openmolar,sheltler Manager) 19:48:18 <saigkill> amonthoth: good idea 19:48:20 <amonthoth> and made choose medical packages for their trainning 19:48:21 <zoumpis> we can invite people to help us with the packaing 19:48:44 <zoumpis> maybe an opeFATE would be a good solution , right saigkill? 19:49:16 <saigkill> zoumpis: Or just an single Email to the List. Maybe we can motivite others to help us 19:49:28 <zoumpis> ok! 19:50:12 <zoumpis> we can do both of two 19:50:21 <saigkill> +1 19:50:22 <zoumpis> so as to find more volunteers 19:50:51 <zoumpis> (i have no idea how to pack source code! ,unfortunately) 19:50:54 <zoumpis> :) 19:51:02 <differentreality> me neither but I'm sooooo willing to learn :) 19:51:24 <zoumpis> #action openFATE , and e-mail invitation of volunteers for packaging 19:51:35 <zoumpis> differentreality 19:51:42 <zoumpis> efagra could help us! 19:51:51 <saigkill> Some Basic infos are there: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Packaging 19:51:55 <differentreality> true 19:53:10 <zoumpis> so we carry on with the translation 19:53:10 <amonthoth> i downloaded a Quick_Start_Guide_for_Linux_RPM_Patching.pdf 19:53:49 <zoumpis> that's your first step ! congratulations!muy bien! 19:54:30 <zoumpis> The goal is to translate the applications(included and non-included) into many languages 19:54:35 <zoumpis> so we have 19:54:52 <zoumpis> [1] GnuMed Translations : https://translations.launchpad.net/gnumed/trunk/+pots/gnumed 19:55:07 <zoumpis> [2] FreeMedForms : https://launchpad.net/freemedforms 19:55:18 <zoumpis> [3] openEMR : a) http://www.oemr.org/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=TranslationGuide b) http://www.openmedsoftware.org/wiki/OpenEMR_Internationalization_Development 19:55:30 <zoumpis> [4] openmolar : https://translations.launchpad.net/openmolar 19:55:39 <zoumpis> [5] shelterManager : https://translations.launchpad.net/sheltermanager 19:56:28 <zoumpis> [6] http://medical.sourceforge.net/ 19:56:35 <zoumpis> GNUHealth 19:56:39 <differentreality> r we talking about eng -> gr translation ? 19:56:49 <zoumpis> not only! 19:57:19 <zoumpis> if anyone want to translate the application in an other language it will be appriciated 19:57:21 <zoumpis> :) 19:57:39 <zoumpis> so volunteers for the translation? 19:57:48 <diamond_gr> differentreality: I'm translating openmolar 19:57:50 <amonthoth> what softwae we use to translate? 19:58:03 <saigkill> QT Linguist 19:58:08 <zoumpis> that's good diamond 19:58:08 <saigkill> or similar 19:58:09 <amonthoth> good 19:58:32 <saigkill> Mostly i found *.pot or *.po files 19:58:39 <diamond_gr> amonthoth: I use gtranslator 19:58:41 <zoumpis> ah and may this will help you 19:58:41 <zoumpis> How to translate via the Launchpad take a look here : https://help.launchpad.net/Translations 19:59:00 <amonthoth> is there a spanish translator coordinator? 19:59:01 <zoumpis> yes .po or .pot files are used commonly 19:59:15 <zoumpis> i can help with the spanish translation amigo 19:59:48 <amonthoth> zoumpis, let's start 19:59:54 <zoumpis> ok! 20:00:13 <zoumpis> that's openfloor stuff! 20:00:15 <zoumpis> well 20:00:40 <zoumpis> #action announce the software to be translated at the list 20:01:15 <differentreality> diamond_gr, tnx that's good to know... I d like to help out too 20:01:43 <zoumpis> so anyone who wants to translate , has only to reply at the mail 20:01:58 <zoumpis> :) 20:01:58 <diamond_gr> Nice!!! 20:02:19 <zoumpis> Perfect! 20:02:31 <zoumpis> any idea or doubt! 20:02:40 <zoumpis> in 2 minutes i 'll be bacj 20:02:42 <zoumpis> k 20:05:54 <zoumpis> andre are you here? 20:06:29 <zoumpis> ping andre? 20:07:13 <zoumpis> susetroll? 20:07:19 <susetroll> yes I am here.. 20:07:29 <zoumpis> are you adre? 20:07:40 <susetroll> yes that is right :) 20:07:50 <zoumpis> Andre Massing? 20:08:02 <susetroll> exactly that guy. 20:08:02 <amonthoth> what about lokalize to translate? 20:08:38 <zoumpis> ok the topic is yours 20:08:39 <zoumpis> *openSUSE Medical Mailing list Brainstorms and Ideas (Andre Massing) 20:08:45 <diamond_gr> amonthoth: lokalize is OK. 20:08:55 <zoumpis> +1111 20:09:05 <zoumpis> susetroll your turn 20:09:13 <susetroll> thanks for that! I don't know how many of you read the email on the ml.. 20:09:21 <amonthoth> susetroll, ping 20:09:26 <zoumpis> me too 20:10:17 <amonthoth> i do read medical ml 20:10:25 <susetroll> but as I stated I was interested in improving the "state" of scientific orientated software.. 20:11:09 <amonthoth> are you thinking of grid computing too? 20:11:26 <susetroll> meaning for example to try identify software/ package which might be interesting for a broad scientific audience.. 20:12:13 <zoumpis> you mean like Folding @ Home project? 20:12:19 <susetroll> what exactly do you mean, when you mean grid computing,,, it is vaste topic? 20:13:26 <susetroll> what is the Folding @ Home project? 20:13:38 <amonthoth> cheaper than cluster when high calculation is needed. like eela, condor, 20:14:01 <zoumpis> http://en.opensuse.org/Folding@Home 20:14:08 <zoumpis> take a look at this 20:15:06 <amonthoth> atm looking at 20:16:21 <amonthoth> high processing computing vs grid computing 20:16:29 <amonthoth> gisela project 20:16:51 <susetroll> yes, that looks interesting, do you know whether there is a large user base? 20:17:29 <amonthoth> http://www.gisela-grid.eu/ 20:17:35 <zoumpis> so 20:18:15 <zoumpis> amonthoth and susetroll can you make a report (in the mailing list) for this kind of software? 20:18:31 <diamond_gr> zoumpis: +1 20:18:54 <diamond_gr> would like to read some URLs 20:19:04 <zoumpis> all would benefited from these 20:19:07 <susetroll> you mean kind of a collection of software, possibly interesting for a larger audience? 20:19:21 <zoumpis> yes 20:19:35 <zoumpis> excactly 20:19:55 <zoumpis> so 20:20:17 <susetroll> yep, I added some software to openFATE, but the idea there was to collect that in a wiki page, and to supply more information. 20:20:51 <zoumpis> #action susetroll & amonthoth report the "scientific software" in the mailing list 20:21:08 <zoumpis> may be we can re-write to the openFATE 20:21:09 <zoumpis> ... 20:21:31 <zoumpis> collect all the nessesary information 20:21:34 <susetroll> I can to this, that mean taking the information from openFATE and tranfering to an appropriate wike entry. 20:21:41 <zoumpis> and the wiki page will be created! 20:21:51 <zoumpis> don't worry about 20:22:02 <zoumpis> +1 suse troll 20:22:03 <zoumpis> so next topic 20:22:17 <zoumpis> *Build the new release of the Distro with KIWI toolset 20:22:40 <zoumpis> That's a very interesting topic 20:22:56 <zoumpis> well the plan is the next release to be build with KIWI toolset 20:23:14 <zoumpis> (except from the SUSE Studio Release) 20:23:28 <zoumpis> so here we also need volunteers 20:24:03 <zoumpis> atm i try to understand how the kiwi works... 20:24:22 <zoumpis> so help and ideas from others will be appriciated 20:25:24 <zoumpis> anyone interesting? 20:26:13 <zoumpis> interested 20:26:14 <zoumpis> ? 20:27:39 <diamond_gr> Don't know KIWI. 20:27:53 <amonthoth> maybe we need to invite more ppl involved with KIWI toolset 20:27:58 <diamond_gr> Must setup a distro with the MySQL setup 20:28:04 <zoumpis> +1 20:28:07 <diamond_gr> and maybe with some artwork 20:28:15 <zoumpis> diamond_gr & amonthoth 20:28:57 <zoumpis> #action invite people involved with KIWI toolset 20:30:17 <zoumpis> so we go on the next topic 20:30:20 <zoumpis> right? 20:30:59 <saigkill> afaik we can ask for kiwi support in opensuse-buildservice 20:31:22 <zoumpis> +1 20:31:44 <warlordfff> I can be helpful at kiwi 20:31:51 <warlordfff> sorry I was eating 20:32:08 <zoumpis> but i think better solution would be kiwi-users@lists.berlios.de 20:32:16 <zoumpis> ok warlordff 20:32:24 <zoumpis> sounds good 20:32:30 <saigkill> +1 I don't knew this list 20:32:41 <warlordfff> yeah 20:32:50 <amonthoth> warlordfff, +1 20:33:23 <warlordfff> I am going to try and fix the kiwi page in mid August 20:33:38 <zoumpis> i asked about the kiwi-ml in the buildservice and the suggestion was kiwi-users@lists.berlios.de 20:33:45 <warlordfff> it has a few mistakes and it is back on editions of oS 20:34:22 <warlordfff> btw kiwi is the best way to do it under my opinion 20:34:40 <zoumpis> +1 20:35:42 <zoumpis> so we continue to the next topic 20:36:13 <zoumpis> *Setting the release dates for the new release of the distro 20:37:09 <warlordfff> I have an ideaon that 20:37:15 <warlordfff> I have an idea on that 20:37:23 <warlordfff> if I may 20:37:57 <zoumpis> yours warlodfff 20:38:06 <warlordfff> we could tell Jos to make this an item for the Marketing Hackfest at oSC 20:38:11 <warlordfff> so that 20:38:14 <zoumpis> feedback and ideas appriaited 20:38:25 <saigkill> warlordfff: +1 20:38:31 <zoumpis> +1 20:38:35 <warlordfff> when finally the 12.1 realease of medicla is ready 20:38:53 <warlordfff> to promote this a lot 20:39:08 <warlordfff> I believe it is a great thing to promote 20:39:23 <zoumpis> sounds good ! +1 20:39:33 <warlordfff> and it shows how active the community around the Project is 20:40:09 <warlordfff> if you now decide when I can be helpfull on promotion this 20:40:19 <warlordfff> as I did with Everegreen 20:40:19 <amonthoth> +1 20:40:56 <zoumpis> mmm 20:41:09 <warlordfff> oh idea 20:41:20 <warlordfff> what about an interview? 20:41:24 <warlordfff> those days 20:41:25 <zoumpis> first we have to find volunteers for packaging 20:41:38 <warlordfff> with saigkill and zoumpis 20:41:43 <zoumpis> +1 20:41:47 <warlordfff> about Medical? 20:42:03 <saigkill> we can ask kim leyendecker (People of openSUSE) to do this 20:42:03 <zoumpis> saigkill? 20:42:08 <warlordfff> zoumpis: can you remind me this tommorow at coffe? 20:42:09 <saigkill> He does a good job 20:42:22 <warlordfff> oh 20:42:31 <warlordfff> that is a great idea too 20:42:41 <zoumpis> #action interview about Medical (zoumpis+saigkill) 20:42:45 <zoumpis> yes warlodd 20:42:45 <amonthoth> saigkill, i thought Kim could be interested too 20:42:55 <zoumpis> i will remind it to you 20:43:03 <saigkill> i think so too 20:43:21 <amonthoth> and she knows kiwi too 20:43:51 <amonthoth> she works with suse studio too 20:44:03 <oy_> bye (need to go) 20:44:25 <zoumpis> ok bb oy , thanks for your participation 20:45:24 <zoumpis> so we have interview , and invite Kim leyendecker right? 20:45:43 <saigkill> yes. If you would like, i can ask him 20:46:03 <zoumpis> more info at ml , ok? 20:46:09 <saigkill> ok 20:46:26 <amonthoth> zoumpis, saigkill, i think she is a good asset 20:46:47 <zoumpis> ok 20:46:50 <warlordfff> she is a Great asset 20:47:57 <zoumpis> good and great asset , surely can help us! 20:48:52 <warlordfff> ;-) 20:48:53 <zoumpis> well 20:50:05 <zoumpis> so the next release of openSUSE Medical (KIWI based) would be at November , maybe we can devide the releases into parts (we have to find volunteers for packaging as well , as soon as possible) 20:51:04 <zoumpis> for example last days of September Beta 1 release 20:51:18 <zoumpis> 10-15 October Beta 2 release 20:51:35 <zoumpis> 1st of November RC 20:51:53 <zoumpis> and 10-15 of November Final Release? 20:51:59 <zoumpis> is it ok? 20:53:15 <zoumpis> #action announcement openSUSE Medical Release Stages in medical Mailing-list 20:53:38 <warlordfff> if you make the packages 'till then I think you can make it in time, but I think for marketing reasons it is better Medical to be released a month later 20:54:05 <zoumpis> you mean at December? 20:54:07 <zoumpis> mmm 20:54:15 <warlordfff> I think it will help both 12.1 and Medical 20:54:22 <zoumpis> i didn't think of that 20:54:25 <zoumpis> soi 20:54:25 <amonthoth> zoumpis, that's a few days after oS12.1 public release 20:54:53 <zoumpis> mas o menos un month 20:54:57 <amonthoth> that's will help both and marketing efforts 20:55:08 <zoumpis> yes i agree with that 20:55:09 <warlordfff> yeap 20:55:09 <amonthoth> synergy 20:55:10 <zoumpis> so 20:55:26 <zoumpis> more info and ideas at ml, right? 20:55:47 <warlordfff> 'cause this will be a second explosion of marketing in 12.1 too 20:56:01 <zoumpis> that's right? 20:56:03 <warlordfff> and we care on promoting 12.1 20:56:04 <zoumpis> ! 20:56:59 <warlordfff> ? 20:57:00 <amonthoth> not sure if Linux for Education will be released those days too 20:57:18 <warlordfff> I can ask about Edu 20:57:20 <susetroll> I have to leave... have a good night. 20:57:28 <warlordfff> GN 20:57:35 <amonthoth> susetroll, gn 20:57:47 <zoumpis> susetroll good night 20:58:30 <zoumpis> well the last topic for today's meeting is 20:58:32 <zoumpis> *openSUSE Medical Artwork 20:59:12 <amonthoth> what is needed ? 20:59:32 <zoumpis> we have to make some changes in the logo i think 20:59:59 <warlordfff> ? 21:00:02 <warlordfff> why? 21:00:08 <warlordfff> on the log? 21:00:11 <zoumpis> change colors or adding a new feauture 21:00:12 <warlordfff> on the logo? 21:00:13 <zoumpis> logo 21:00:37 <zoumpis> or we can make a second logo 21:00:51 <warlordfff> why? 21:01:15 <zoumpis> for example we can add the green color 21:01:25 <amonthoth> zoumpis, do you mean add color ? 21:01:39 <zoumpis> yes 21:01:51 <warlordfff> imo logo is great 21:02:15 <amonthoth> Maybe add green to geeko on top 21:02:37 <SatManUK> i have a friend whos father is a doctor in pakistan, but i think that pakistan isn't that interested in technology in certain regions 21:02:37 <zoumpis> +1 21:03:11 <zoumpis> mmm... 21:03:17 <warlordfff> SatManUK: why is that? 21:03:37 <warlordfff> a good software always can be useful 21:03:52 <SatManUK> he said that they are rather uninterested in technology outside big cities 21:03:52 <amonthoth> and enhancing the snake ? 21:04:50 <zoumpis> +1 warlodfff 21:05:13 <SatManUK> for example my friend's father is a respected doctor and he advised his son not to bother with computer studies because nobody uses them in pakistan 21:06:09 <zoumpis> i can't believe that SatManUK 21:06:17 <zoumpis> we are in 2011 21:06:20 <warlordfff> mmmm that is a challenge 21:06:27 <zoumpis> no in the Middle Ages 21:06:57 <amonthoth> SatManUK, doesn't anyone make research there? 21:07:21 <warlordfff> #action convinse the father of SatManUK 's friend to use oS medical 21:07:27 <warlordfff> ;-) 21:07:32 <zoumpis> :) 21:08:02 <amonthoth> what about logo svg source? 21:08:20 <warlordfff> beyond jokes I think that many Doctors are thinking this way 21:08:40 <zoumpis> good idea amonthoth 21:08:46 <warlordfff> amonthoth: is the logo on git artwork? 21:09:15 * amonthoth is searching for svg now 21:09:24 <zoumpis> may be we can ask for help at opensuse-artwork 21:09:31 <warlordfff> mmmm 21:09:39 <warlordfff> Ragecryx could help on that if you ask him nicely ;-) 21:09:48 <zoumpis> of course 21:10:05 <amonthoth> the first logo was made by saigkill and the second bu Yecril71pl 21:10:06 <warlordfff> do that if you want 21:10:34 <zoumpis> ok 21:11:47 <zoumpis> so we discuss the possible changes of logo in the ml? 21:12:00 <amonthoth> and see no difference between both 21:12:06 <zoumpis> and then ask for help in opensuse-artwork 21:12:08 <zoumpis> ? 21:13:09 <saigkill> Excuse me please, but i must going to bed 21:14:04 <zoumpis> ok saigkill the meeting it's gonna finished, as well 21:14:08 <amonthoth> saigkill, gn 21:14:14 <zoumpis> that was the last topic 21:14:23 <zoumpis> Good Night Saigkill 21:14:34 <zoumpis> thank's for your participation 21:14:47 <zoumpis> so guys 21:16:21 <zoumpis> we have to close the meeting , because there is no topic left for discussion 21:16:30 <warlordfff> Gn saigkill 21:16:47 <zoumpis> I would like to thank you all for your ideas,feedback and participation 21:17:54 <amonthoth> thank you for let me participate too 21:18:39 <zoumpis> your welcome amonthoth 21:19:18 <zoumpis> the meeting is closing now . Discussion , ideas , and actions via ml! :) 21:19:29 <zoumpis> #endmeeting