13:00:17 <ddemaio> #startmeeting 13:00:17 <bugbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 14 13:00:17 2015 UTC. The chair is ddemaio. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:17 <bugbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:33 <ddemaio> thank you all for joining. let's get started 13:00:51 <ddemaio> #topic Hashtag 13:00:51 <ddemaio> The hashtag right now is #Leap but I think we should come up with something different like #MakeTheLeap. Suggestions? 13:01:21 <ddemaio> I'm going to down a list, so I wanted to start with this one first 13:01:25 <ddemaio> any suggestions 13:01:37 <boblmartens> Personally, I like it. 13:01:43 <boblmartens> #LeapAhead 13:01:46 <boblmartens> Another option. 13:02:14 <ddemaio> Any others 13:02:35 <boblmartens> #openSUSELeap 13:02:39 <boblmartens> Not as nice, I admit. :-) 13:02:50 <ddemaio> I was thinking that 13:03:10 <ddemaio> Leap42.1 doesnt work because of the . 13:03:32 <boblmartens> Right, downside to the numeric naming. 13:03:40 <lnussel> #leap42 13:03:52 <ddemaio> i like that 13:03:53 <victorhck> #TheAnswerToEverything :þ 13:03:59 <ddemaio> ha 13:04:06 <boblmartens> #grabyourtowel 13:04:20 <victorhck> I prefer a short hastag 13:04:28 <boblmartens> #l 13:04:32 <victorhck> :P 13:04:34 <lnussel> it may also make sense to check who else used or still uses the tag :) 13:04:53 <ddemaio> I think leap42 is probably the shortest that would work 13:05:17 <boblmartens> There is a #LEAP already in use. 13:05:17 <ddemaio> +1 if you vote for leap42 13:05:23 <victorhck> but only Geeko users will know what it's about... 13:05:39 <ddemaio> yes Leap has different people posting 13:05:59 <ddemaio> leap42 would be unique to us 13:06:13 <victorhck> maybe an #openSUSEleap works better, for all the users, even not openSUSE users... 13:06:20 <boblmartens> #leap42 is pretty much unused ... 13:06:53 <boblmartens> I'm just over here checking on the hashtags. 13:07:01 <victorhck> I will vote por #openSUSELeap 13:07:06 <ddemaio> openSUSELeap does give us the advantage of having the name of the project 13:07:14 <ddemaio> +1 13:07:49 <victorhck> +1 in two different options???? ¬¬ 13:07:51 <victorhck> :) 13:07:53 <boblmartens> I'm fairly certain Twitter would grab all of the permutations of it as well. 13:08:34 <ddemaio> #openSUSELeap should we go for that 13:08:50 <ddemaio> bob or ludwig 13:08:51 <victorhck> it's ok for me... 13:08:53 <boblmartens> +1 13:08:56 <boblmartens> I'll go for it. 13:08:59 <ddemaio> ok 13:09:02 <ddemaio> next 13:09:14 <ddemaio> #topic Release party 13:09:14 <ddemaio> #info Release party info is at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Launch_parties please add your release party if you plan on doing one and let me now ASAP so I can mail and/or order some items for your release party 13:10:16 <ddemaio> I sent this out to the mailing list 13:10:34 * victorhck haven't planned to make a release party... 13:10:41 <ddemaio> ideally we want to have people post photos of the party. 13:10:45 <boblmartens> Cool! I'm going to add it to my list of things to look into organizing. 13:10:59 <boblmartens> Not sure how many people we could draw here, but maybe we can get something together. 13:11:02 <ddemaio> I will have some tshirts I can send out. They're green 13:11:08 <boblmartens> GREEN!? 13:11:15 <victorhck> what a surprise!! 13:11:18 <victorhck> :þ 13:11:22 <boblmartens> ;-) 13:12:01 <ddemaio> the photos of people in the leap tshirts will help flood the social media and catch peoples eye 13:12:08 <boblmartens> That map on the page needs to be fixed. 13:12:18 <boblmartens> Nevermind, now it works. 13:12:22 <ddemaio> perhaps it will increase the awareness or get people to click on the images 13:12:22 <boblmartens> Sounds good. 13:12:27 <warlordfff> hi sorry for beiing late 13:12:38 <victorhck> o/ warlordfff 13:12:42 <ddemaio> welcome 13:12:52 <boblmartens> Hello warlordfff! 13:12:53 <warlordfff> :D 13:13:15 <ddemaio> so with the release party, please let me know asap ddemaio@suse.de 13:13:30 <boblmartens> I will do that! Now you have me thinking about having a party! 13:13:31 <warlordfff> dates for the release parties? 13:13:33 <ddemaio> that way I can get you some items and tshirts for the release party 13:13:51 <ddemaio> sorry I can't ship openSUSE beer 13:13:57 <victorhck> :( 13:14:10 <boblmartens> We wouldn't drink it here anyway ... only the local swill will do. ;-) 13:14:22 <warlordfff> dates for the release parties? 13:14:37 <boblmartens> Currently announced ones are here: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Launch_parties 13:14:39 <ddemaio> so our release party is in amsterdam on Nov 4 13:14:47 <ddemaio> Prague is Nov. 20 13:15:00 <boblmartens> So basically we have the month of November to have one? 13:15:06 <ddemaio> Alex in Munich is doing one, but I'm not sure of the date yet 13:15:20 <warlordfff> we will do one in our hackerspace 13:15:31 <ddemaio> if it goes into early december, that's ok, but ideally nov 13:15:39 <warlordfff> sSo count one in Thessaloniki Greece :D 13:15:41 <ddemaio> cool 13:15:45 <boblmartens> Awesome. 13:15:48 * victorhck say hello to tux93 13:15:52 <warlordfff> official release date? 13:15:56 <tux93> hey guys 13:15:56 <ddemaio> nov 4 13:15:58 <victorhck> 4th nov 13:16:02 <victorhck> yep 13:16:06 <boblmartens> I need to talk to my wife this week, but we might have one in Minnesota, USA as well. 13:16:11 <boblmartens> Hey-o tux93! 13:16:39 <warlordfff> ok so I will let you know about the exaxt date on a few dates 13:16:40 <ddemaio> I can order some tshirts for stateside because customs is a nightmare 13:16:47 <warlordfff> ok so I will let you know about the exaxt date on a few days 13:16:50 <CzP> and I can do something in Budapest 13:17:01 <boblmartens> I'll be in contact soon ddemaio 13:17:05 <ddemaio> one thing to consider is getting the sizes for the party 13:17:18 <warlordfff> how many people? 13:17:25 <ddemaio> #action get sizes before party and how many people 13:17:50 <ddemaio> that's up to the host 13:18:15 <ddemaio> I can order quite a few 13:18:21 <ddemaio> just let me know 13:18:25 <warlordfff> are we going to have any special posters or something for the parties? 13:19:01 <ddemaio> #topic flyers 13:19:09 <ddemaio> #topic posters 13:19:12 <boblmartens> HA! 13:19:16 <ddemaio> I am putting something together 13:19:25 <warlordfff> I mean it would be nice if we could create stuf to use in any release parties 13:19:26 <ddemaio> I should have something by next week 13:19:42 <ddemaio> I will make it evergreen 13:19:48 <boblmartens> It is nice to have a print shop on campus. 13:20:02 <warlordfff> ddemaio: is there an agenta for today so that I do not interrupt? 13:20:19 <ddemaio> I'm going down a list 13:20:42 <ddemaio> but feel free to interject and I'll adjust accordingly 13:21:33 <ddemaio> Ill make a poster/flyer make it part of the shipment 13:21:40 <ddemaio> next topic 13:21:41 <warlordfff> ok then I am going to talk with my local wordpress meetup in order to help the local team here in Thessaloniki make a wordpress theme for News page 13:22:11 <ddemaio> ok 13:22:12 <warlordfff> already did some talking and everything shows that it will be done at some point 13:22:25 <ddemaio> great 13:22:32 <warlordfff> something relative 13:22:35 <boblmartens> warlordfff tie in with the new homepage theme? 13:22:44 <warlordfff> yeap boblmartens 13:22:49 <boblmartens> warlordfff sweet 13:23:21 <ddemaio> #topic Bloggers and media outreach 13:23:22 <warlordfff> in the old days, before Richard become president he used to make tweeter thems too 13:23:29 <warlordfff> :D 13:23:50 <ddemaio> so we need to do some outreach about Leap to bloggers and media outlets 13:23:51 <warlordfff> not only for official accounts but also for users 13:24:23 <ddemaio> we have a few outreach items going to get them talking about its and reviewing it, but need your help to reinforce the messaging 13:24:45 <ddemaio> if you can contact Linux Journal, Linux Magazine, Linux.com, Linux today, Informationweek, DataInformed, re/code, Networkworld, eweek, 13:25:02 <ddemaio> ask them about doing a review on Leap, that would be great 13:25:29 <boblmartens> Just need to reach out to the outlets and try and get them to talk? 13:25:35 <boblmartens> So interrogations? ;-) 13:25:37 <ddemaio> plus, engage local media in our language to drive Leap 13:26:33 <ddemaio> #action need community to engage with local media and language specific media outlets 13:26:38 <ddemaio> #topic slogan 13:26:38 <ddemaio> Proposed slogan for Leap is: Leap - Powered by community and enterprise Are there any other suggestions 13:27:25 <boblmartens> Leap - Community Infused Enterprise Stability 13:27:43 <boblmartens> That's pretty bad, so please ignore. :-) 13:28:00 <ddemaio> I had Community Innovation & Enterprise Performance 13:28:10 <ddemaio> However, I like the Powered by 13:28:46 <ddemaio> any other suggestions 13:29:13 <ddemaio> How do you all like Powered by community and enterprise 13:29:22 <boblmartens> I like it fine enough. 13:29:29 <boblmartens> That IS the headline feature of Leap, right? 13:29:43 <boblmartens> In the future we might be more snappy, but it is a succinct way of outlining WHY Leap exists. 13:29:46 <victorhck> well I'm not native english speaker 13:29:50 <victorhck> so... 13:29:56 <victorhck> it's ok for me... 13:30:19 <ddemaio> how does that translate victorhck 13:30:39 <victorhck> powered by it's a bit difficult... 13:31:03 <ddemaio> warlordff: your thoughts on translation of the slogan 13:31:23 <victorhck> "Desarrollado por la comunidad y la empresa" 13:31:29 <warlordfff> to be honest I like powered by 13:31:49 <warlordfff> most of the slogans don't sound nice in Greek so 13:32:03 <warlordfff> most of the slogans don't sound nice in Greek so:::D 13:32:15 <victorhck> Build over enterprise, powered by community 13:32:40 <victorhck> I don't know if "build over" it's right... :) 13:33:03 <ddemaio> it does fit 13:33:15 <tux93> maybe "Built on..." victorhck? 13:33:22 <victorhck> :) 13:33:52 <ddemaio> Built on enterprise, powered by community 13:34:16 <ddemaio> sysrich: ping 13:34:28 * victorhck thinking about a righ enterprise translation... 13:34:38 <sysrich> ddemaio, yes? 13:34:51 <warlordfff> sysrich: pong :D 13:34:52 <ddemaio> Built on enterprise, powered by community 13:34:59 <boblmartens> ddemaio I like your last one maybe a little bit better 13:35:25 <sysrich> What happend to powered by community & enterprise? 13:35:33 <warlordfff> ddemaio: I agree with boblmartens 13:35:42 <boblmartens> warlordfff Bad move, now it's dead. ;-) 13:35:51 <ddemaio> ha 13:36:12 <ddemaio> so Leap - Powered by community and enterprise 13:36:46 <sysrich> I like that 13:37:32 <sysrich> afk, sorry 13:38:09 <boblmartens> sysrich just doesn't like us 13:38:13 <ddemaio> I would prefer to have the community first in the slogan, but Built over enterprise, powered by community 13:38:22 <ddemaio> it kind of has a ring to it 13:38:35 <boblmartens> Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 13:38:37 <boblmartens> You could invert it 13:38:55 <sysrich> Built by Community, Built On Enterprise.. 13:38:56 <sysrich> now REALLY afk 13:39:10 <boblmartens> I wonder how many more times we could bring him in here ... 13:39:32 <warlordfff> who? 13:39:37 <boblmartens> sysrich 13:40:03 * warlordfff has an evil smile 13:40:16 <ddemaio> Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise seems like a good fit 13:40:48 <boblmartens> warlordfff nicely done sir 13:41:23 <victorhck> enterprise it's about SUSE, right? 13:41:37 <warlordfff> BTW there was a chat about a youtube show/broadcasting, what happened with it? 13:41:52 <boblmartens> victorhck yes 13:42:09 <ddemaio> Lets think about that for a second 13:42:18 <ddemaio> and come back to it 13:42:30 <warlordfff> I liked the idea and back then I had no time but now... 13:43:00 <ddemaio> Well end with looking at either Powered by community and enterprise or Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 13:43:20 <ddemaio> so next topic 13:43:22 <ddemaio> #topic Wiki 13:43:22 <ddemaio> We need help with the wiki for things like screenshots, which help with other marketing efforts. 13:43:22 <ddemaio> #info screenshots can be found at https://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots 13:43:22 <ddemaio> Please help if you can. 13:43:23 <ddemaio> #info features is at https://en.opensuse.org/Features 13:43:23 <warlordfff> 2nd is cooler 13:43:24 <ddemaio> Any help you can provide with adding info to the wiki features page is appreciated. Please assist where it is possible. I think we should focus on the messaging, which I will list next 13:44:08 <ddemaio> Any help you can provide with this would be wounderbar 13:44:38 <warlordfff> ddemaio: I have an idea 13:44:43 <ddemaio> Also, please encourage other members to provide info 13:44:45 <ddemaio> sure 13:45:05 <ddemaio> all ears or eyes 13:45:07 <boblmartens> no warlordfff, no ideas ;-) 13:45:12 <warlordfff> how about next week make an online hackathon where people do just that, Screenshoots 13:45:15 <warlordfff> ? 13:45:28 <warlordfff> it will take 2 hour top 13:45:39 <warlordfff> and it will be fun 13:46:00 <tux93> warlordfff: +1 13:46:06 <warlordfff> maybe give a t-shri to the winner 13:46:17 <warlordfff> t-shirt 13:46:22 <boblmartens> a green one 13:46:35 <warlordfff> or whatever, the joy that beat all others 13:46:53 <ddemaio> i'm good with that. 13:47:33 <ddemaio> #action hackathon 13:47:39 <ddemaio> wiki hackathon 13:47:57 <warlordfff> ok let's throw this in to the list and deside about time later :D 13:48:07 <ddemaio> ok 13:48:29 <ddemaio> #topic Messaging 13:48:46 <warlordfff> oooooooooo 13:48:48 <ddemaio> We would like to focus on these areas: 13:48:48 <ddemaio> GNOME 3.16 13:48:48 <ddemaio> KDE Plasma 5 13:48:48 <ddemaio> Kernel 4.2 13:48:48 <ddemaio> LibreOffice 5 13:48:49 <ddemaio> Every minor version of Leap expect a new KDE and GNOME 13:48:51 <ddemaio> Lifecycle of the base system is the same as SUSE Enterprise version 13:48:53 <ddemaio> Same packages and updates as SLE 13:48:55 <ddemaio> Desktop is more updated 13:48:57 <ddemaio> Downgraded packages to support LTS vision of Leap 13:48:59 <ddemaio> Choice of desktop environment 13:49:01 <ddemaio> Enterprise feel 13:49:03 <ddemaio> Purposeful updated packages for stable functionality (out-of-the-box) 13:49:05 <ddemaio> Designed technology 13:49:07 <ddemaio> Modern Hardware Support 13:49:09 <ddemaio> Desktop and server features for Linux Users 13:49:13 <ddemaio> A power-user's dream 13:49:15 <ddemaio> Enterprise base for stable use 13:49:17 <ddemaio> Rollback options using Snapper 13:49:19 <ddemaio> BTRFS file system for rollback capabilities 13:49:21 <ddemaio> XFS data file systems for performance 13:49:23 <ddemaio> 1,500 out of 7,000 packages are from SLE 13:49:43 <warlordfff> flood over? :P 13:49:59 <ddemaio> Any more we should focus on 13:50:35 <boblmartens> Do we want to tie into "The maker's choice for sysadmins, developers and desktop users" from the homepage at all? 13:50:52 <ddemaio> Since Tumbleweed has all new features, we are really focused on selective update 13:50:53 <boblmartens> Outline how those three groups are served by the areas outlined above? 13:51:01 <boblmartens> I'd agree. 13:51:01 <lnussel> boblmartens: +1 13:51:31 <boblmartens> Truth be told, I'm ready to put Leap through its paces in a number of places on campus as our server system of choice. 13:51:42 <boblmartens> Of course, I need to do more testing first. ;-) 13:51:47 <ddemaio> We could probably categorize them 13:52:25 <ddemaio> based on sysadmins, developers and desktop users 13:53:33 <ddemaio> A topic-notch Linux environment for educational institutions? 13:54:01 <ddemaio> top-notch 13:55:11 <ddemaio> any other areas we should focus on? 13:58:19 <ddemaio> #action digest and regurgitate messaging 13:58:48 <ddemaio> some I guess we are at the end. 13:58:50 <lnussel> yast for sure has tons of features 13:58:59 <ddemaio> true 13:59:14 <ddemaio> yast. we don't have that in there. 13:59:16 <boblmartens> of extreme interest to sysadmins 13:59:23 <lnussel> don't for get to mention docker, just for the checkmark 14:00:50 <ddemaio> ha 14:01:03 <ddemaio> how about containerization 14:02:34 <ddemaio> last topic then the final two we want to come back to 14:02:49 <ddemaio> #Talking Points 14:03:24 <ddemaio> - First hybrid distro - Powered by community and enterprise 14:03:24 <ddemaio> - Packages sources from an enterprise product 14:03:24 <ddemaio> - Leap provides professional solutions for a better Linux users experience through tried and tested updates 14:03:24 <ddemaio> - Tired of a brown desktop, try a green one 14:03:24 <ddemaio> - Green is the new orange 14:03:25 <ddemaio> - Filling the other side of the Linux development spectrum 14:03:55 <ddemaio> orange was the new black. now green is the new orange 14:04:26 <victorhck> Tired of a brown desktop, try a green one (hehehehe) 14:04:35 <boblmartens> I like that ;-) 14:04:40 <victorhck> Green is the new orange 14:04:46 <victorhck> ¿?¿ I don't understand 14:05:12 <ddemaio> me neither ;-) 14:05:22 <victorhck> haha 14:06:10 <ddemaio> I guess we can push Tired of a brown desktop, try a green one the most. Tons of shares 14:07:06 <ddemaio> It would be great to have an image with that one, but that might look a little nasty 14:07:51 <ddemaio> https://oomscience.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/mr-hanky.jpg 14:07:57 <boblmartens> Yup ... 14:09:11 <ddemaio> #info social media plan at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_launch_plan will be updated next by the end of the week. Please help to translate 14:09:11 <ddemaio> #action ddemaio sends an email to translation mailing list. 14:10:03 <ddemaio> so Leap - Powered by community and enterprise or Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 14:10:44 <ddemaio> 1 - Powered by community and enterprise 14:11:00 <ddemaio> 2 - Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 14:11:10 <boblmartens> 2 14:11:14 <tux93> 2 14:11:18 <ddemaio> 2 14:11:34 <warlordfff> 2 14:11:46 <victorhck> 5-4+1 14:11:49 <victorhck> =2 14:11:54 <victorhck> :þ 14:11:55 <boblmartens> Nicely done maths! 14:12:10 <ddemaio> hackaton 14:12:41 <ddemaio> so how do we do this 14:13:11 <ddemaio> straight PR, do we have a tool for this to draw people in 14:14:06 <victorhck> straight PR ?? what does mean? 14:14:36 <ddemaio> sorry, california slang 14:14:45 <victorhck> :) 14:15:16 <ddemaio> should we just advertise a hackaton 14:15:34 <ddemaio> how to be measure who gets a tshirt, etc 14:15:48 <boblmartens> Best bribe? 14:16:04 <victorhck> warlordfff: your idea, something to add ?? 14:16:51 <victorhck> but something like a contest, or something like that? 14:17:47 <boblmartens> I need to go AFK for a bit, I'll pop in when I'm back at my desk. 14:17:58 <ddemaio> ok 14:19:08 <sysrich> how about "Bridging Community and Enterprise" as a slogan for leap? 14:20:58 <ddemaio> anyone care to revisit the slogan. 14:21:28 <victorhck> Well we can do a new poll with 3 proposals... 14:21:37 <victorhck> 1 - Powered by community and enterprise 14:21:44 <victorhck> 2 - Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 14:21:55 <victorhck> 3 - Bridging Community and Enterprise 14:22:48 <ddemaio> How about we take the three and post it to the mailing list for a decision 14:23:28 <victorhck> ok 14:23:33 <ddemaio> or put it to a vote on lizard or connect. anyone care to do that 14:23:38 * boblmartens nods in agreement as he runs from desktop 14:24:31 <ddemaio> so I'll end the meeting and write some hackathon stuff in my weekly review a bribe 14:24:33 <victorhck> ddemaio: how many days to vote? 14:24:54 <ddemaio> let's give it until monday 14:25:06 <boblmartens> Were we going to discuss the YouTube/Broadcast thing? 14:25:52 <ddemaio> we can. can you enlighten me on it 14:26:05 <boblmartens> No idea, someone else brought it up. 14:26:48 <ddemaio> I wasn't tracking anything about it 14:27:05 <ddemaio> #action vote 1 - Powered by community and enterprise 14:27:05 <ddemaio> 2 - Powered by Community, Built on Enterprise 14:27:05 <ddemaio> 3 - Bridging Community and Enterprise 14:27:06 <boblmartens> Well, I'm just crazy then. :-) 14:27:35 <ddemaio> so last call 14:27:43 <ddemaio> going once 14:27:48 <tux93> made a poll on connect: https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/tux93/48746/slogan-for-leap-marketing 14:28:15 <ddemaio> #action poll https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/tux93/48746/slogan-for-leap-marketing 14:28:23 <ddemaio> going twice 14:28:45 <ddemaio> thank you all 14:28:49 <ddemaio> #endmeeting