15:00:13 #startmeeting 15:00:13 Meeting started Tue Aug 24 15:00:13 2010 UTC. The chair is suseROCKs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:17 #chair AJaeger 15:00:17 Current chairs: AJaeger suseROCKs 15:00:53 crap... forgot to give meeting title in the "startmeeting" 15:01:14 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting | Topic: Welcome 15:01:33 Good Moin! Good Moin! Good Moin Team! 15:02:01 I have to apologize as I am having some difficulty that the wiki is not letting me log in and hasn't since ysterday, so I was unable to update the agenda. (Need to troubleshoot why my login is failing) 15:02:03 morning geekos 15:02:28 suseROCKs: that's a bad start, never start with appologies 15:02:44 even if its true, you need to get more training 15:02:48 So I want to say that we're getting quite busy with lots of events coming up soon so I want to try to keep this meeting quick and sweet focusing on status updates and what we need in the near future. 15:03:13 suseROCKs: +1 15:03:15 FOCUS 15:03:20 1. Welcome 15:03:21 2. Status Updates 15:03:21 2.a. Ambassadors 15:03:21 2.b. Conference 15:03:21 2.c. openSUSE General 15:03:21 2.d. Smeegol 15:03:21 fast and furious 15:03:23 2.e. OBS 15:03:25 3. Event Resources needed 15:03:27 4. Miscellaneous 15:03:52 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting | Topic: Status Updates 15:04:06 ok so first we have Ambassadors... Any updates what's going on there? 15:04:24 yes 15:04:26 :D 15:04:51 up here last week we had a WONDERFULL event dedicated to governament about opensource 15:05:06 and we was represented by alexandro cabelo 15:05:15 http://cabelovivaolinux.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/palestra-sobre-android-sdkndk-e-video-captura-concluida/ 15:05:27 ^^ 15:05:34 can I keep talking about Ambassadors program 15:05:47 ? 15:06:04 because CarlosRibeiro have problems when starts to talk. never stops 15:06:07 CarlosRibeiro, Give status update about the program itself, not the activities. We can read the activities stuff 15:06:18 :D 15:06:23 ok 15:06:46 the status was great, more 5 emabassadors to our brazilian team 15:06:55 ^^ 15:06:58 all from governaments 15:07:13 CarlosRibeiro, I haven't seen them in my INBOX yet... 15:07:29 AJaeger: Cabelo had not time yet 15:07:34 to send us updates 15:07:43 the event happens last friday 15:07:53 AJaeger: but for sure I'll ping him 15:07:57 and ask for 15:08:03 sounds good ? 15:08:28 I mean I haven't seen those 5 new ambassadors step up... 15:08:28 Any other updates? 15:08:31 CarlosRibeiro: u elected ur self to drive forward ambassador program but is there something outside brazil? 15:08:42 another update about our ambassador program in brazil and portugal 15:08:52 gnokii: no you are completly wrong 15:08:59 but the cap was on the floor 15:09:04 gnokii, stop bitching, everybody can speak here. 15:09:10 someone need to kepp it and pay attention 15:09:17 sure and so I speak 15:09:37 and as you can see today we have more brazilians here 15:09:39 CarlosRibeiro, What about the discussion group of those who volunteered to be looking at ambassador program? Is that moving forward? 15:09:59 suseROCKs, that's a questoin for me ;) 15:10:08 suseROCKs: yes 15:10:17 suseROCKs, it slowed down last week with me on vacation, will push again. 15:10:19 AJaeger, then to you as well :-) 15:10:21 last saturday we had our 3rd meeting 15:10:35 CarlosRibeiro, Hold on 15:10:43 ok, sorry 15:10:47 glups 15:10:54 You're talking activities again. This topic is about the program itself. The infrastructure. We need to get that ironed out quickly 15:11:01 Especially with so many events happening worldwide soon' 15:11:04 sure 15:11:25 suseROCKs, I'll followup later this week on infrastructure. 15:11:28 so u did activate the ambassadors for sfd? 15:11:51 AJaeger, thanks 15:11:56 gnokii, what is sfd? 15:12:05 software freedom day 15:12:34 ahh that's a good point. That's in September, right? 15:12:45 yeah its really soon 15:13:13 ok so we need to communicate that to the ambassador list to tell htem to start coming up with their own plans for SFD. Excellent point. Thanks gnokii 15:13:24 You want to take that action item, gnokii? 15:13:36 haha, that should be already done some weeks ago 15:13:46 me? u are kidding me or? 15:14:11 gnokii, You're good at communicating ideas to the ambassadors 15:14:16 I am not responible anymore for ambassador program u want CarlosRibeiro take care of it 15:14:27 I never said that 15:14:37 the good thing on SFD is that we'll have soon the PR/ambassador kit ready to send them 15:14:37 gnokii, nobody ever said that. 15:14:51 gnokii, but if you're not interested, then say it friendly. 15:15:01 so they would have stuff such as flyer, DVDs, stickers etc. 15:15:01 no AJaeger I have a mail! 15:15:17 michl: +1 15:15:28 So, let's ask in the round whether anybody wants to push sfd 15:15:44 michl: Timeline for ambassador kit? 15:15:44 gnokii: can you help us please 15:15:48 ok I don't have time to sit here and argue about who does what. Someone please volunteer the action item to communicate to the ambassadors to mobilize for SFD 15:16:10 you are important, and I not here to take nothing just to help ;-) 15:16:23 * michl volunteers 15:16:32 Wunderbar michl 15:16:36 I can help on that for sure 15:16:49 #action michl to communicate with ambassador list to mobilize globally for SFD 15:16:58 but gnokii is our key ambassador program then I would like to keep working with him 15:17:12 I am a key? 15:17:23 suseROCKs: globally won't be enough, I'll go for universally 15:17:40 ok guys... take this discussion out of the meeting you can discuss the finer points then 15:17:40 +1 michl 15:17:54 you have a very crazy brazilian here to help you on that mission 15:18:12 CarlosRibeiro: I like crazy people 15:18:14 anything else on ambassadors? 15:18:15 Next status update: Conference. gnokii Any updates about that? 15:18:43 we have a kind of program now buts not finally yet 15:18:56 the speakers with talks I mailed yesterday 15:19:24 gnokii: Thanks. Any interesting feedback? 15:19:28 gnokii, What can we do for now to increase any marketing? 15:19:35 even no final but looking really good - the program 15:19:56 michl, gnokii Can we publish a first list of topics to market the conference better? 15:19:57 suseROCKs: ahh good point, beef up the page 15:20:01 AJaeger: yeah let me say this, I got a little bit trouble with speakers on froscon 15:20:24 suseROCKs: no u cant, u can prepare some text for pm nothing more 15:20:38 I'm interested to know if there's good cross-pollination of the conference topics so taht it is interesting to the broader public 15:21:01 michl: btw u talked with that nelson marwues or? 15:21:30 hmm, doesn't ring a bell 15:21:54 that guy from fedora marketing 15:22:08 no 15:22:11 marques 15:22:39 let's not discuss specific talks here, please coordinate afterwards 15:22:45 yes 15:22:50 mmh yes marques, maybe he attend not so then only debian, openoffice and mozilla participating 15:23:02 gnokii, so do you need someone to help prepare marketing text or will you drive that? 15:23:28 suseROCKs: sorry but I am definitly not the guy for preparing english texts 15:23:30 You can do the main draft and then if you want someone can help wordsmith it. You have better overall idea of what the conference will be lke. 15:24:10 gnokii, michl: Could somebody else from the program committee do this? 15:24:50 AJaeger: I can prepare a german text when u find someone for translating 15:25:01 AJaeger: I can give some cents if gnokii and michl thinks is necessary 15:25:02 * suseROCKs has some graphics he took earlier this year with Conference images in mind. Will have to pull them together and offer them for use here. 15:25:07 gnokii: we'll find someone 15:25:13 ok 15:25:18 for translating? 15:25:29 #action michl and gnokii to find someone to work on marketing text for openSUSE Conference 15:26:02 michl btw: javier_ works on a shirt motive for conference so give him a chance and went not to rlihm ;) 15:26:09 ok next: openSUSE status in general (not specific to anything other than just our distro marketing) 15:26:50 as this is such a broad status, any comments? ideas where we need to move forward to further promote 11.3 post-launch? 15:26:56 Hi I have a couple of ideas 15:27:23 Can I say? 15:27:32 manugupt1, go ahead 15:27:48 I saw this site http://www.24hoursloot.com/ 15:28:26 maybe we can give a design to them for a tshirt and people buy more openSUSE t-shirts in India 15:28:54 manugupt1, that's an idea, but first before we figure out actual products, we need to figure out how to market the store itself :-) 15:29:34 Oh.. suseROCKs lots of people buy stuff from them and they are cheap for Indians 15:29:39 suseROCKs: I agree with you but maybe manugupt1 words deserves some #info 15:29:51 to not be forget 15:30:08 so we need not market it for India I have seen around 20 tweets in 2 months :) 15:30:13 manugupt1, So you're proposing to market openSUSE products on 24hoursloot? 15:30:33 suseROCKs, yes give them a design for a t-shirt 15:30:57 if they come up its good, its a gamble but we wont have any fundings from them 15:31:05 michl, Can you discuss this and explore further with manugupt1 as you're the main guy we know of behind our current merchandise store? 15:31:05 manugupt1: rlihm can give you one 15:31:10 suseROCKs: but I think this t-shirt will not be only for openSUSE, will be for promoting 11.3 post-launch 15:31:21 a special t-shirt 15:31:28 aaaaaaaaah 15:31:30 that will be sold there and never more again 15:32:02 Maybe I can prepare a list of things over there, the way they market in concise and get back to you guys 15:32:03 manugupt1: do I mis understood? 15:32:10 ok I'm all for you guys discussing what can be done to improve merchandise marketing. Can you guys discuss amongst yourselves? 15:32:11 michl I hope u burn that A4 Flyer next time ;) 15:32:23 CarlosRibeiro, no.. 15:32:25 suseROCKs: sure 15:32:33 manugupt1: sorry 15:32:34 suseROCKs, sure.. 15:32:50 gnokii: burn on media or burn in fire ? 15:32:53 michl, you up for a off-side convo with the others? 15:33:08 burn in fire 15:33:37 gnokii: why and which flyer ? 15:33:41 they are definitly ugly, unhandy and noone took them 15:34:02 that flyer henne bring to froscon that a4 with a lot text on it 15:34:31 is this flyer related to openSUSE merchandising or something off-topic? 15:35:12 does we have that A4 flyer artwork link? 15:35:52 CarlosRibeiro: hurgh, don't know but as rlihm is on vacation this week I doubt 15:36:20 michl: fine 15:36:23 ok as there's no answer as to what this flyer is about, we'll move on... 15:36:27 michl, you up for a off-side convo with the others? 15:36:42 srry for being LATE... 15:36:53 was cooking, I like that toooo much... 15:36:54 jospoortvliet: how was the cigar :D 15:36:56 jospoortvliet, a lizard is never late ;) 15:37:24 I did make enough guacomole for you all, however, come and eat it :D 15:37:57 alright we'll come back to the topic of merchandising again later as we seem to have gone off-track 15:38:16 anything else post-11.3 launch markeitng to bring up before I go to next status? 15:38:25 jospoortvliet: do you have any update ? 15:38:38 about post-11.3 launch to share? 15:38:49 (reading up, gimme a sec) 15:38:58 rtyler, are you awake yet? 15:38:59 jospoortvliet: sure 15:39:04 We had a discussion on the maliing list after Robert Lihm's Flyer review about having two flyers done that each ambassador could localize 15:39:17 Idea was on flyer only for contributors, one for users. 15:39:42 AJaeger: that what I said to rlihm round 3 months ago because 90% in latam speak spanish and not english 15:40:03 * michl for the translation piece but against two flyers 15:40:06 does anybody wants to start either on a text base - and then let's work on design 15:40:14 first you become user then contributor 15:40:33 michl, I don't agree with that 15:40:36 2 flyers just confuse, you always need to ask first in what someone is interested prior to handing out a flyer 15:41:01 michl, If you are promoting at a developer-oriented conference, why would they want an end-user brochure? 15:41:15 we need brochures that we can fit to our audiences. Not a one-size-fits all 15:41:17 suseROCKs: what's that, I'm not used to disagreement from your side 15:41:40 :-) 15:41:41 ouch, now we're again in my beloved end-user thing 15:41:54 we do have less then 5% end users 15:41:55 I love end-users too 15:41:57 suseROCKs: but michl is not completly wrong, sometimes during users event some dev comes and ask something.... and vice versa 15:41:58 #action michl and gnokii to find someone to work on marketing text for openSUSE Conference > I am good at writing, contact me you two, I can do that... 15:42:05 so no need to focus on them 15:42:25 michl we found ur writer 15:43:19 Ok on the brochures, I agree we need two 15:43:25 one for endusers one for potential contributors 15:43:37 after marketing text done. could I ask for the file to prepare portugues translation? 15:43:37 the one for endusers - text depends on what endusers we want to target 15:43:43 as is discussed in the strategy discussion 15:43:49 we may need to clarify "end user" 15:43:51 CarlosRibeiro, Yes 15:44:02 CarlosRibeiro, ones the text is done, it should be shared with everybody for translation ;) 15:44:12 if end user means a guy who's interested in IT and buy once in a while a computer magazine I'm fine with 15:44:20 I am willing to create the text for those brochures, of course with help from all of you 15:44:21 AJaeger: ;-) 15:44:37 if end user means my mother who's using a computer and is not interested in more we're on the wrong path 15:44:39 I'll set up two etherpads, one for each, write a skelleton and get ya'll to help 15:44:39 jospoortvliet: plz create the text for the installer first 15:44:44 so, perhaps we start now with the contributor one to move one step forward? 15:44:47 gnokii: I think there is overlap 15:44:52 jospoortvliet: +1 15:44:57 gnokii: and the release is a while away still 15:45:03 gnokii: but it is also on my agenda, yes 15:45:21 gnokii: for installer text should be done around jan/feb, I guess? 15:45:27 michl, The openSUSE Project is more than just the distro. For example, OBS is part of the Project. If we want to educate people about it, why would we put that in end-user brochure? Those types of people won't get it and will run away if they see such complicated things in there. 15:45:44 michl: what enduser means, again, is what the outcome of our strategy discussion is. You know MY opinion on what our end users are ;-) 15:45:53 suseROCKs: exactly 15:46:24 suseROCKs: michl: end user one can say 'openSUSE is developed collaboratively blabla using the best FOSS technologies like buildservice' but nothing more 15:46:31 jospoortvliet, remember the installer needs translation - let's ask Coolo for deadline. But we can always do it early ;) 15:46:56 AJaeger: sure. again, I think the installer, which needs a mix of end-user AND contributor content, can be build on the folders 15:47:03 (or the other way around, doesn't matter much) 15:47:26 we should better not integrate OBS, Studio and so one in one flyer, when it change u have to replace the flyers 15:48:06 gnokii, sure, that's a possibility. All depends on how we approach it. But a one-size-fits all brochure for everything 100% is not a good idea IMO 15:48:52 gnokii, a high level intro needs to be in there - and a yearly review does not hurt 15:48:57 and the second point is let us better not produce much flyer yet because we should better talk about an "identity design" for such stuff before 15:49:27 gnokii: you mean the whole look and feel? 15:49:38 gnokii: can't the text be written, and then that? 15:49:46 gnokii, Again, sure I agree completely with your concepts, but then again, what do we do for the immediate needs (i.e. next month?) 15:49:46 as long as our strategy is clear, the users we focus on etc... 15:50:01 suseROCKs: I think we can't have these things finished before openSUSE conference 15:50:05 because strategy must be clear 15:50:30 the developer/contributor one - maybe, but that one also needs a bit about what users we target... so you know what you're up for when you join. 15:50:39 it should be a consistent communication 15:50:45 jospoortvliet, Well I'm planning to build an OBS brochure (text-wise) and get that on the table at OLF next month since our OBS talk got rejected. 15:50:49 jospoortvliet: now, I would not mean the look and feel of the distribution, I mean the design of flyer, poster banner and such stuff 15:51:50 gnokii: sure but as I said, we can do text before we do design, right? Of course design has influence - some text will have to be shortened to fit design etc, but that's not hard. The hardest part is to put in there what you want to say. Then you can say it with 100 or 500 words ;-) 15:51:57 thats right 15:52:14 suseROCKs: a specific OBS brochure? well, that's not a bad idea. Contact me about that, I want to make a OBS how-to anyway 15:52:15 I propose 14 words only 15:52:26 suseROCKs: no, 42 of course! 15:52:34 it will answer ALL their questions :D 15:52:40 :-) 15:52:50 ok jospoortvliet let's you and me work on it later this week then 15:52:58 I'll open up an etherpad and build text 15:53:03 suseROCKs: you rock! 15:53:09 #action suseROCKs and jospoortvliet to work on OBS brochure 15:53:32 suseROCKs, I'll help as well with OBS 15:53:41 ok next status (let's move quickly guys!) is Smeegol (but rtyler is asleep) and OBS... Anything interesting AJaeger? 15:53:58 AJaeger, I knew you would since you're the OBS liaison :-) 15:54:15 nothing interesting about OBS right now 15:54:37 btw other action: jos sets up piratepads for two folders: one for users, one for contributors. Then gets others to help him write them :D 15:54:50 and then merges it with the installer?!? 15:55:01 target date: should all be done by the end of this year. 15:55:08 How about that? 15:55:40 jospoortvliet, let's aim a bit earlier ;) 15:55:50 jospoortvliet, Can you clear up the action item wording so I can officially record it? 15:56:02 AJaeger: well OK, how about ready end of november? 15:56:25 jospoortvliet, say latest by november - can be ready earlier ;) 15:56:31 jos sets up piratepads for two folders: one for users, one for contributors. Then gets others to help him write them. Will merge it with the installer pages gnokii started and it should all be finished by the end of november latest 15:56:57 suseROCKs: jes? 15:57:04 AJaeger: note that we can't really write most of that before the suse conference... 15:57:07 #action jos sets up piratepads for two folders: one for users, one for contributors. Then gets others to help him write them. Will merge it with the installer pages gnokii started and it should all be finished by the end of november latest 15:57:15 (is over and the strategy has been decided upon) 15:57:23 * suseROCKs slaps jospoortvliet openSUSE!! openSUSE!!! 15:57:26 btw I would really like our own etherpad installation 15:57:31 sorry 15:57:39 jospoortvliet: we had one 15:57:40 because you can have a list of etherpads... :D 15:57:51 and administer them, including giving names etc 15:57:51 jospoortvliet, propose that at the -project meeting tomorrow 15:57:53 anyway, off topic 15:57:55 dl9pf has once one running for OWN 15:58:02 gnokii: ok 15:58:04 will bring it up 15:58:12 ok so let's move on to new topic 15:58:38 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting | Topic: Event Resources needed 15:59:01 Alright, so we've been talking a little bit here and there about what we need and we just talked a little bit earlier here as well about brochures 15:59:06 we need a new rollup for michl :D 15:59:12 Now we need to move forth and actually do it. 15:59:21 Items we should have well defined is: 15:59:24 - Brochures 15:59:33 - Talking Points 15:59:53 - Event materials needed (e.g. a tip sheet about what supplies to bring to the event) 16:00:13 lupinstein, Are you around? 16:01:13 for what u need him? 16:01:47 I'd like to ask lupinstein to drive the AI to create talking points page 16:01:49 suseROCKs: for my info, do we have a wiki space where we have lists of stuff like this? 16:02:03 can't find it here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_team 16:02:13 suseROCKs: I believe we need a kind of check list not only before events but also after 16:02:32 jospoortvliet, I fear not - we only have the Presentations up. Rest is needed. 16:02:37 jospoortvliet, that's something I've been looking for as well. Things arent easy to find and not everything was migrated properly from the old wiki yet. 16:02:42 AJaeger: ok will create some pages 16:02:53 but those specific types of info about booth management, etc. I've never seen any such thing and don't believe we have it. 16:02:58 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_meeting from here you can find some other pages so I will create what is needed 16:03:12 suseROCKs: well we can create pages for it, it's on the jobs page already I bet 16:03:14 ues 16:03:15 let me create a strucuture 16:03:19 jospoortvliet, tell us on the marketing list once it's done so we can help further 16:03:20 Yes I am here 16:03:24 AJaeger: 16:03:26 will do 16:03:35 jospoortvliet, lupinstein often reports back to us after he attends events with the most common questions he's encountered. I'd like you to coordinate with him to build up on the talking points page 16:04:22 suseROCKs: What up? 16:04:35 Yes, I need to do that wiki page 16:04:40 lupinstein, I was hoping you were around to accept an action item to drive the Talking Points page that we need 16:04:41 suseROCKs: sounds reasonable :D 16:04:53 Ok, by when 16:04:57 lupinstein: I want to create a structure with some wiki pages on the wiki, will do that later tonight 16:05:08 lupinstein, before next meeting? :-D 16:05:09 give me a date or it might get forgotten 16:05:13 lupinstein: so will create the page, some skeleton text, you can then work on it?? 16:05:15 ok when that :) 16:05:21 2 weeks from today 16:05:27 noted 16:05:42 #action lupinstein to create Talking Points page before next meeting 16:05:57 #action jospoortvliet to coordinate Event Resources tips pages 16:06:18 ok we got through that topic right quickly 16:06:32 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team meeting | Topic: Miscellaneous 16:06:48 Any general topics you'd like to bring up before closing, folks? 16:07:00 yes 16:07:05 list of events we want to be at 16:07:08 is there anything like that? 16:07:16 yes and no jospoortvliet 16:07:18 I need to plan my travel & sponsorship a year in advance ;-) 16:07:27 and of course we can coordinate more 16:07:28 I created a page for that 16:07:33 gnokii: I only want to hear about the YES part :D 16:07:39 lemme guess it is empty? 16:07:43 jospoortvliet, yeah you and I talked about that yesterday and I think we should definitely do that. But obviously its not the easiest thing in the world to coordinate 16:07:47 no its not empty 16:07:53 cool 16:08:14 suseROCKs: yes I am working on a list, will of course share it once it is done. Trying to get it on google docs but it doesn't like my ODF and XLS files :( 16:08:24 gnokii: so talk to me, whazzup with that page? 16:08:47 is that sponsorship only for you jospoortvliet or does include Ambassadors? 16:09:03 lupinstein: the sponsorship isn't for me, that would be my travel budget, separate 16:09:10 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_events 16:09:12 the sponsorship is both about sponsoring conferences and ambasadors 16:09:13 fellows my plate still empty :( 16:09:14 gnokii: tnx 16:09:23 CarlosRibeiro: come on don't tell me you are bored 16:09:31 sure 16:09:32 :( 16:09:33 you can certainly help me with the brazil events I need to visit 16:09:34 hehe 16:09:49 CarlosRibeiro, Your plate isn't empty. Work with AJaeger to keep the ball rolling on our ambassador infrastructure discussion 16:09:59 great 16:10:08 CarlosRibeiro: and you're allowed to do things nobody told you to do ;-) 16:10:14 now I'm hapy again 16:10:15 as is everyone :D 16:10:21 :D 16:10:23 just share you're doing it, preferably on mailinglist 16:10:33 Also, CarlosRibeiro When you have time, please post a summary of your Ambassador discussions with the Brasilians on our ambassador-list so others can learn what you are doing 16:10:37 (for the record, I like ml's more than IRC meetings) 16:10:50 CarlosRibeiro: and make sure there are A LOT ambasadors at latinoware 16:10:51 suseROCKs: +1 16:10:58 my fault sorry 16:11:02 I want to meet them, maybe have a little side conference/meeting 16:11:06 suseROCKs: this is very important I know 16:11:10 talk about what we can do, maybe give tips, ideas 16:11:12 cool good to hear there might be a little money for travel :) 16:11:20 so jospoortvliet u can represent KDE and openSUSE at BLIT :D 16:11:31 lupinstein: problem is that it is very difficult to do within Novell, it's another reason why I would love to have the foundation 16:11:42 paying a non-Novell person a few bucks is crazy complicated 16:11:45 100's of forms :D 16:11:53 gnokii: BLIT? 16:12:04 and I don't represent KDE without GNOME anymore, remember :D 16:12:07 its a little event before the doors of berlin 16:12:15 gnokii: doors? 16:12:22 doors? i thought they had walls? 16:12:25 I know it took me 90 days to get paid for my trip to Austin 16:12:25 you bloody germans, always confusing us poor dutch... 16:12:33 lupinstein: oh you're lucky :D 16:12:34 but it was worth it 16:12:38 suseROCKs: berlin has no wall anymore 16:12:44 :-) 16:12:55 gnokii: hehe you mean that big one huh we're all glad it's museum stuff now :D 16:13:02 now let's go back on topic plz 16:13:07 Hey, I am willing to go any were I am needed, just I need fund if includes airfare. :-) 16:13:34 jospoortvliet, ok so the topic is information gathering on events globally 16:13:53 yeah I want input from everyone on my list of conferences/gatherings 16:13:59 so you all can help me decide what is important etc 16:14:14 for example, I have no idea what is going on in Japan, India, Brazil etc (ok little idea but not enough to decide) 16:14:18 that remind me to fill in dates for next year 16:14:30 gnokii: sounds like an action item :D 16:14:36 in India is only one event important 16:14:42 FOSS.in 16:14:45 what, Akademy.in? 16:14:50