15:03:55 #startmeeting 15:03:55 Meeting started Tue Jun 15 15:03:55 2010 UTC. The chair is suseROCKs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:55 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:04:12 #chair AJaeger 15:04:12 Current chairs: AJaeger suseROCKs 15:04:40 does bugbot need op? seems bugbot was doing fine? 15:04:46 it needs... 15:04:50 ok 15:05:23 btw. you can use startmeeting with a message... 15:05:38 ok so let's begin our meeting. Welcome to all! 15:06:20 our agenda is at http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing_Team/Meetings/Marketing_Meeting_2010-06-15 15:06:43 Someone rearranged our agenda, but I need to put 11.3 topic later so we can get the other topics done with and give more time in the meeting for 11.3 15:06:51 yeah I did it 15:07:38 ok that's fine, and I appreciate it gnokii, just I need to be able to quickly go through some of the smaller subjects so we have more time to focus on 11.3. Okay? 15:08:32 suseROCKs: go ahead 15:08:39 #topic OBS Post Mortem 15:09:04 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting in progress | Topic - OBS Post Mortem 15:09:09 ahh that's better :-) 15:09:42 Okay so AJ started a thread on the ML about our results of the OBS campaign. I'd like to open the floor now for anyone who would like to offer their insights on this topic. 15:10:01 What did we do well? What can we do better? What should we continue to do? etc. 15:10:24 I'd say what henne said is pretty valid, tell about the benefits 15:10:38 and along those lines, I would like to congratulate saigkill_1 and AJaeger for putting so much time and effort into it. 15:10:50 second suseROCKs is completely right, we need to go to projects developers to make them use the OBS 15:11:04 suseROCKs: Thanks :-) 15:11:05 can I ask a question? 5 days after release isnt from my side "post mortem" 15:11:13 FYI: the obs team plans the 2.1 release in three weeks... 15:11:29 * AJaeger thinks that's far too soon - and doubt they'll make it. 15:11:39 FYI: Major goal is merging 1.8 and 2.0 15:11:58 1.8 was specifically for Meego, right? 15:12:04 suseROCKs: Yes. 15:12:22 gnokii__: I consider it a good time to discuss now while it's fresh on our mind. 15:12:33 gnokii__, So its too soon to discuss how we've been doing? I think we can certainly explore whether we developed our campaign properly 15:13:53 michl, so based on Henne's comments, do you think we didn't do a good enough job highlighting the features? 15:14:33 I think we didn't too bad compared to the past and would like to see some more detailed feedback. 15:14:55 AJaeger: exactly 15:15:10 I took special care to have an introductionary section on what the buildservice is and only highligthed three features fro 2.0 and 1 for 1.8. 15:15:10 the headline with 2 releases is confusing 15:15:48 I'll agree with that one michl 15:15:50 important is there is a big OBS release which is 2.0 15:15:56 michl: I agree, but releasing 1.8 and 2.0 at the same time (or first 2.0 then next day 1.8) would have been worse IMO. 15:16:12 during the text there might be a paragraph about features of 1.8 15:16:13 Hope to not be in that situation again... 15:16:28 michl: So, just announce : 2.0 release and in the text mention 1.8 as well? 15:16:54 Meaning: Headline 2.0, text as is (context wise) 15:16:55 imo important is that the headline is clear 15:16:58 So what we need to focus on now are the long-term campaign for OBS... 1) Reach out to potential venues to get OBS used or installed and 2) ensure we develop plenty of materials that help us talk about OBS 15:17:02 one message per headline makes sense to me 15:17:06 (hi all btw) 15:17:20 wstephenson_gdn: What does gdn stand for? 15:17:23 and in general we tend to explaing to much in detail 15:17:28 * suseROCKs high-fives wstephenson_gdn 15:17:42 AJaeger: garden :) 15:18:06 michl, suseROCKs: Ok, understand the messaging of the headline - and really hope that's a one time situation but who knows... 15:18:51 yeah I think michl is right that the headline needed to be more clearer, but to me, I think what we need to do is truly sell sell sell OBS. And that's not something we've developed well yet. 15:19:01 the OBS announcment shows clearly this project still is seen mainly as the distro 15:19:11 But I don't feel that's a bad thing that we haven't done it yet. We're just simply picking our priorities for our time constraints 15:19:13 compare the OBS announcment with milestone 7 15:19:20 hint: the votes 15:19:45 michl: Ok, you mean the reaction on the announcement 15:19:55 michl, we talked briefly about proposing name change to "open build service" Would that help? 15:20:04 I mean 8 votes compared to 280 or so 15:20:14 suseROCKs: Might help but is not done that fast... 15:21:00 suseROCKs: There are lots of users of the distri compared to people using obs - several magnitutdes I guess 15:21:16 michl, true, but OBS targets a very specific segment of community, whereas milestones target practically all of the community 15:21:56 ok so what else do we want to discuss on this topic? If not, we should move on. 15:22:38 AJaeger: is there a plan to rebrand OBS and what would cause it to take a lot of time? 15:23:04 ok I will let that question be answered and then I will close the topic 15:23:08 wstephenson_gdn: No plan yet. With 11.3 round the door and the strategy discussion, it's not prio 1 ;) 15:23:27 ok 15:23:30 answered! 15:23:53 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting in progress | Topic - openSUSE Conference 15:24:33 gnokii__, You have been monitoring the conference plannng closely. Do you have any information to share with us? 15:25:21 Does anyone else have information to share? michl? 15:25:36 I have to share there are only 45 days to deadline cfp and not a lot of proposals yet so u have to do more marekting! first u should accept the invitation on fb 15:26:31 gnokii__: I find the facebook thingy a good idea but suggest that in the future this gets coordinated a bit first. Let's discuss that kind of stuff briefly on the marketing ML... 15:26:50 .. and if, let's say, there's no disagreement in a day, move forward. 15:27:51 I did appreciate receiving the invitation for FB. It was received while I was on the road, and seems every time I go on the road, I get hundreds of invites LOL Still sorting through some of them. 15:27:55 But this is a broader topic - how do we want to act? Is it ok if one of us just executes? How to inform others or ask for input? What to do in urgent situations? 15:27:57 AJaeger I did it because I have since a long time the feeling the marketing goes wronger and wronger because waisting time with things we havent enough power to do 15:28:22 what's our strategy to get plenty of proposals? 15:28:27 gnokii__: It's a question of communication and coordinating. 15:28:35 cast the net wider? 15:28:46 AJaeger there should be a linkedin event as next I havent enough power ther because havent a lot of contacts ther using more xing 15:28:53 or bait the hooks more attractively? 15:29:02 suseROCKs: Let's have this discussion as a separate topic, my comments are off-topic here and deserve a separate discussion round 15:29:33 wstephenson_gdn: u should go to fb and xing and accept the invites so that ur contacts see there is something going on ;) 15:29:43 yes I agree AJaeger ok Let's make a quick vote on this: Do we want to have a dedicated meeting on the Conference or do we want to continue discussion on the ML? Vote now! 15:30:18 ML 15:30:31 Im for ML 15:30:57 I see IRC as more productive, we're too slow on ML. 15:31:09 thats really stupid a thing whats past would discussed on irc and a thing whats running out of time on ML 15:31:32 AJaeger: But i think we can involve more ppl on ML 15:31:56 saigkill, we theoretically could, but let's be honest. People aren't responding well on the ML these days :-( 15:32:19 suseROCKs: Hmm. You're right 15:32:22 I vote for IRC 15:32:37 so we have 2 for ML and 2 for IRC. Any tie breaker before I close this topic? 15:32:51 I change to IRC 15:33:06 bingo the IRC's have it. We'll coordinate a meeting date soon. 15:33:46 we havent 2 for ML and 2 for IRC where have u learned about communication and first u forget a little bit there is vacation season! 15:33:48 gnokii__, Question for you on next topic: Debugging. Is this something that needs a general discussion or can we go directly to where the obstacles exist and talk to htem directly? 15:35:47 gnokii__, We are trying to keep this meeting organized and not go on and on with all topics. That's what people are asking for. So I'm asking you question about debugging. is this a topic that needs general discussion? 15:35:51 gnokii__: I'm lost - please make up your mind. I saw a clear vote on IRC for you. 15:36:26 he spoke last he close the topic 15:37:10 suseROCKs: close it 15:37:14 Topic is closed 15:37:19 proceed. 15:37:30 I'm trying to determine now what the debugging topic is and whether it needs to be discussed. 15:37:37 and thats why I want to discussed this things first waisting time with post mortem things they can be discussed on ML and wiki 15:38:26 #topic openSUSE marketing team Meeting in progress | Topic - Debugging 15:38:31 gnokii__, You have the floor 15:38:57 u like to kidding me or? 15:39:18 gnokii__: it means "you are free to speak" 15:39:38 so he closed an open topic, because of what? 15:39:54 because others asked to close it and give it its own dedicated time 15:41:54 cna u show me the line 15:42:14 so can we get on with the debugging topic instead of procedural meta-discussion? 15:42:25 this isn't the university debating society... 15:42:38 Gentlemen, can we stop nit-picking 15:42:48 no that looks more and more like faschism 15:42:55 suseROCKs: close it 15:43:09 AJaeger> suseROCKs: Let's have this discussion as a separate topic, my comments are off-topic here and deserve a separate discussion round 15:43:14 and people voted 15:43:23 now talk about debugging or the topic is closed. 15:43:37 3 15:43:38 2 15:43:40 1 15:43:47 closed 15:43:48 I searhc for that line fuck 15:44:19 gnokii__: anything to add or next topic? 15:44:36 suseROCKs: what's next? 15:44:40 the big one ? 15:44:43 yes 15:44:57 #topic openSUSE Marketing Team Meeting in progress | Topic - 11.3 Release 15:45:07 I started a draft for a launch plan 15:45:09 http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing/Team/11_3_Launch 15:45:13 The remainder of this meeting shall be dedicated to this topic 15:45:28 he made a vot becaus AJaeger meant I should not do such thinks like yesterday again that was off topic, so he decidede to make a vote IRC or ML I never saw an extra meeting 15:46:38 michl, I think what we need to do first is assess your launch list and start assigning volunteers to the various tasks 15:46:53 gnokii__: the conference topic was moved to a separate meeting, nothing to do with you. 15:47:34 wstephenson_gdn: seperate why? 15:47:48 because we only have about an hour here. 15:48:03 lets focus for the rest on 11.3 15:48:07 yeah and u wasted 20 minutes with post mortem 15:48:09 and we feel conference discussion requires good fair amount of time. It is a good thing we did. 15:48:51 gnokii__, I'm going to say this once and then we're going to talk about 11.3 and nothing else for the rest of this meeting.... 15:49:22 You may think some things are a waste of your time, and that's fine, but it was not a waste of time for others. You cannot dictate how others value their time. End of discussion now we talk about 11.3 15:50:18 michl, so how do you propose we go about coordinating volunteers for the tasks? You have created a great outline of tasks so far 15:50:56 so let us make a vote suseROCKS shouldnt lead every marketing meeting 15:50:56 suseROCKs: simple 15:51:25 because that fascism is contraproductive 15:51:39 first go through the list, see whats good or bad 15:51:50 and then think who or which team might be the right fit 15:51:51 * AJaeger misses the writing of announcements 15:52:12 start at the top 15:52:17 FunkyPenguin: were you asking about kde features before for 11.3 announcements? 15:52:20 sounds reasonable 15:52:28 outsch, the 11.3 highlights 15:52:50 * AJaeger misses putting information on our web sites, e.g. www.opensuse.org in all languages 15:53:42 AJaeger, you mean these are items needed to be added to the list? 15:54:01 suseROCKs: Yes! 15:54:07 AJaeger: its a wiki - add it ;-) 15:54:12 heh 15:54:23 michl: Not sure where and I don't want the two of us edit them together. 15:54:31 Ok, I'll add... 15:55:00 AJaeger: while you are at it: add pre-seeding torrents? 15:55:01 michl, I think we should still divide similar tasks into groups and assign a marketing team member to coordinate that area. 15:55:09 last time we did that last minute and ad-hoc 15:55:11 AJaeger: had you earlier an enligthning conversation on highlights? 15:55:38 michl: Not enlightening enough 15:55:48 wstephenson, is the seeding a marketing task or a technical task? 15:56:09 suseROCKs: bit of both 15:56:27 if we make sure ambassadors are all seeding, we have a good geographical distribution network 15:56:36 ok so spreading the word to get people positioned to receive seeds 15:57:12 and having ambassadors recruit more seeders is another way to get them involved. 15:57:55 once we have the highlights, how about making some short videos? 15:57:57 I like where you're going with that. 15:58:21 SJ, and I have talked about creating some videos. Having those highlights will be useful 15:58:41 Do we have a concrete list of features? or is the M7 announcement pretty complete? 15:59:03 suseROCKs: it looks like complete :-( 15:59:12 ok 15:59:20 then we'll work off of that 15:59:22 and the spideroak thingie still is not in yet 15:59:36 Spideroak would be a big one 15:59:36 michl: reference? 15:59:44 what's holding them up? 15:59:55 i thought spideroak was off because the client was not sufficiently open yet... 16:00:19 wstephenson_gdn: no, we could add it to non-OSS 16:00:33 suseROCKs: contracts need time :-( 16:00:43 understood 16:01:12 so again, I reiterate what i said earlier. i propose we have coordinators that handle sets of similarly themed tasks. 16:01:18 * wstephenson_gdn feels very uncertain about making a big feature for _open_SUSE out of a non-open service. 16:01:19 * AJaeger just enhanced the wiki 16:01:27 suseROCKs: i agree 16:01:29 The coordinators don't necessarily have to actually DO the tasks, but they need to be aware of the tasks and push the right people to fulfill them. 16:02:09 so we need Ambassador coordinator, PR coordinator, social net coordinator, tech coordinator, what else? 16:02:20 overall coordinator;) 16:02:30 suseROCKs: may I suggest to go through the to dos 16:02:35 that should not our GroeFatz 16:02:37 yes 16:02:48 michl: Reload, I added stuff ;) 16:03:20 AJaeger: will we volunteer for the highlight section? 16:03:53 SJ: want some help with videos? 16:04:02 * wstephenson_gdn is into kdenlive atm 16:04:23 wstephenson, What??? You don't use Windows Movie Maker??? :-) 16:04:26 michl: I'll help where you need me ;) 16:04:39 wstephenson, and I've been trying out openshot lately. 16:04:59 AJaeger: so put me in charge 16:05:04 and there's recordmydesktop as well 16:05:10 suseROCKs: PR includes the stuff we talked about in AJ's office? press channel, review copies, review guide? 16:05:18 michl: Can you take over the wiki and edit it now yourself? IT's a wiki ;) 16:05:27 wstephenson_gdn, yes. all the wordy wordy wordy stuff :-) 16:05:41 and I'll jump on the PR Coordination stuff 16:05:50 AJaeger: kdenlive runs recordmydesktop to create the raw footage 16:06:19 Promoe 11.3 on all our infratstructure - who volunteers? 16:06:34 wstephenson_gdn: kdenlive is actually more a tool for working DV material 16:06:44 michl: I would volunteer rlihm but haven't asked him 16:06:49 michl, what does that mean "on our infrastructure"? Does that mean promoting to ourselves as the community? 16:07:09 suseROCKs: see the comments 16:07:11 suseROCKs: I mean on www.opensuse.org, en.opensuse.org, de.opensuse.org, forums... 16:07:11 i'll volunteer for screenshot and video work 16:07:18 ahh 16:08:07 wstephenson_gdn, I had wanted to do shots with my video camera while I was in Nuremberg around the office. But never had a chance to pull out the camera. Perhaps you might want to do some live walk around "give openSUSE a human feel to it" video 16:08:08 what is "sneak peek"? 16:08:24 saigkill, screen shots and screencasts of a desktop environment 16:08:29 saigkill: an article focusing on something 16:08:30 listing of what will be new 16:08:35 aah thx 16:08:38 vorschau 16:08:46 * suseROCKs thinks saigkill would be a great sneak peeker 16:09:00 maybe ... 16:09:49 actually we should ping the DE teams to do sneak peeks. I'll bug Vuntz for GNOME. 16:09:49 saigkill: KevinYeaux did some for earlier releases - do you remember? 16:09:55 wstephenson, do you know the KDE team? 16:09:58 * suseROCKs ducks 16:10:16 I think kevin has left the community 16:10:19 suseROCKs: i may have heard of htem 16:10:21 +them 16:10:30 * saigkill must search about older Sneak Peaks 16:10:42 suseROCKs: yeah, just giving saigkill some example material 16:10:43 classical c&p 16:10:59 gnokii__: c&p? 16:11:04 #action suseROCKs and wstephenson_gdn to ping Desktop Environmetn Teams to offer sneak peeks 16:11:05 copy and paste 16:12:04 next 16:12:08 feed social media 16:12:40 and that includes twitter, facebook, identica, xing, linked in and even blogging 16:12:42 btw: it's "Sneak Peek" not "Sneak Peak" 16:12:51 a peak is the top of a mountain 16:12:58 hehe 16:13:04 a peek is what perverts do at the freibad. 16:13:25 now i know what dantes peak means (movie) 16:13:25 wstephenson_gdn: somehting wrong with your eyes? 16:13:25 Shout out your peeks from the highest peak! Go openSUSE Go! 16:13:29 ther's only peek 16:13:53 michl: i just edited the peaks out of the wiki 16:14:00 so, social media 16:14:11 wstephenson_gdn: no, I did 16:14:36 FYI just got word that Zonker published top 7 reasons to upgrade to 11.3 on Linux.com 16:14:38 gah, collision 16:14:48 suseROCKs: Link? 16:14:59 please stay on topic 16:15:10 we're on who's doing what 16:15:11 cool i haven't seen that article 16:15:13 if he didn't mention kde 4.4 i will fillet him with a rusty stapler. 16:15:48 so, no volunteer for social media 16:15:57 saigkill u cant see him because he was 2 hours ago here and asked for the point why a user should upgrade 16:15:59 next is PromoDVD 16:16:00 michl: i'll take it 16:16:07 but then i'm fully committed. 16:16:09 applause, applause 16:16:18 michl I would make 100er packages for all! 16:16:30 There should be two people coordinating socnet in my opinion (especially with twitter) 16:16:37 gnokii__: 100 pieces for all ? 16:16:46 as u wrote in the table 16:16:46 I doubt that's enough 16:16:57 * AJaeger volunteers to be one of the two 16:17:03 gnokii__: ah, the ambassador thing 16:17:10 #action AJaeger and wstephenson_gdn to be co-coordinators of social media 16:17:33 brb folks... Someone ringing my doorbell 16:18:30 so now mr. saigkill can read it because its published right now 16:18:51 gnokii__thanks :-) 16:19:17 so PromoDVDs I'll do 16:19:22 brb 16:19:29 next thing is the 11.3 presentation 16:19:47 back 16:19:51 should be one which high lights the most important stuff and be used by everybody 16:20:08 and of course needs to be availalbe in the wiki 16:20:12 michl! 16:20:13 I'll volunteer for presentations 16:20:45 Me too.. However I will require help 16:20:57 #action suseROCKs and manugupt1 to coordinate presentations 16:20:58 manugupt1: then you support suseROCKs 16:21:08 ok 16:21:16 manugupt1: thanks 16:21:31 next? 16:21:51 RC2 anouncment 16:22:05 group hugging ;) guys you're doing great! 16:22:11 wait - shouldn't be there first a RC1 thing for this week? 16:22:11 that falls under PR which I am taking already 16:22:41 let's add it to the list... 16:22:44 oh crap, RC1 this week??? We need someone to volunteer for that one. Michl Aj and I are swamped this week with board/strategy issues 16:23:40 * saigkill can made Sneak peek summary in Combination with the Weekly News 16:24:06 saigkill: you mean the one in the release week? 16:24:18 or in general for the weekly news 16:24:19 ? 16:24:22 yes, if its possible 16:24:40 saigkill: everything is possible - but nothing is real 16:24:42 ;-) 16:24:48 Hehe :-) 16:24:52 michl, Do we feel that we have enough volunteers for a lot of tasks now and the rest we can post on the ML to see if there are non IRC-volunteers who can contribute? 16:25:02 Also we need to post on Forums to let them know to volunteer as well 16:25:06 Weekly News publishes all Sneek Peeks in every week 16:25:21 suseROCKs: lets finish this up here 16:25:28 ok 16:25:28 and then we can tell the world 16:25:49 if someone steps up - he or she is more then welcome 16:26:01 back to RC1 and 2 announcment 16:26:06 as additionals. Good idea. Wunderbra! 16:26:28 I absolutely cannot do RC1 announcement this week although I will gladly assist with wordsmithing 16:27:00 and FYI to ANYONE... if you require wordsmithing assistance on your specific tasks, please do not hesitate to ask me. 16:28:16 saigkill: nearly. 'Sneak Peek' 16:28:19 ea, ee :) 16:28:38 Billie volunteers as secondary Wordsmither :-) 16:28:45 * Bille knows how it feels, since he mangles umlauts in every sentence. 16:29:34 suseROCKs: but you could handle the RC2 one? 16:29:52 michl, Yes. After this week, I think my time will be less insane 16:30:07 if so we go ahead and find somehow a solution for RC1 16:30:18 right 16:30:30 under the motto: impossible things we can do in a day, miracles take slightly longer 16:30:42 launch parties 16:31:00 * michl puts gnokii__ on that one 16:31:11 I second that! 16:31:28 gnokii__: how does this feel? 16:31:30 Should we group launch parties and Ambassador coordination together? 16:31:39 * gnokii__ strikes it because whe nmichl would listen to him, he understand why 16:32:07 * AJaeger is back later 16:33:21 gnokii__: I though I listen to you. So what's wrong? 16:33:29 if gnokii__ is not interested, I think we have a number of people on the ML who are expressing interest in launch parties. We can ask for a volunteer to coordinate there. 16:34:23 michl I called 2 times for launch parties, I wrote all ambassadors, I wrote a blogpost. Now its time for a more visible place to call for that 16:34:46 gnokii__: that's it - you already are doing it 16:34:49 suseROCKs are u are now known as michl? 16:35:26 michl what u mean I do it? 16:35:51 gnokii__: as you've written above - you're doing it already 16:36:12 please maintain it 16:36:29 if you like I put the launch party thing to en.opensuse.org ;-) 16:36:41 of course but I there isnt a lot of effect not like last release so we have to put it on "news.o.o" 16:37:17 gnokii__: so can I leave your name with the launch parties? 16:37:19 Whatever tools you need to further the spread of launch parties, we support it. There is no disagreement with you on that. 16:37:29 and we put i on news or make more noise around 16:37:49 sure but I cant make a post on news.o.o and no I dont like to have an account 16:37:50 maybe with these South African horne which are popular right now 16:37:57 if you feel you are not getting enough responses, please let us know and we can think and assist in ways we can enhance it 16:38:20 gnokii__: so I'll doing it on behalf of gnokii__ 16:38:47 I know that Carlos is very keen to spread it in South America and has discussed it with me several times. Of course everything takes time. 16:38:58 michl I can write u an text but u know my english grammar.... 16:39:18 gnokii__: we've already in this channel two word smithers 16:39:22 so, np 16:39:34 next - selection of screenshots 16:39:41 who's the screenshot god? 16:40:01 doesn't screenshots/screencasts fall under sneak peeks already? 16:40:04 * wstephenson_gdn just got zonker to update the 11.3 kde screenshot 16:40:13 michl: i volunteered for screens already 16:40:30 at http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/319054-seven-reasons-to-upgrade-to-opensuse-113 16:41:02 wstephenson_gdn: you're in 16:41:25 Sneek peek summary is saigkill 16:41:46 yes 16:42:02 michl: now you're just 'sneeking' to annoy me ;) 16:42:09 lol 16:42:21 then next is pre-information to press, ambassdors and other open soure light houses 16:42:29 wstephenson, just type OpenSuSE and watch AJ get annoyed :-) 16:43:24 michl, I again feel that fall sunder its own categories under PR and Ambassador coordinators 16:44:26 suseROCKs: fine - and which name do we put in? 16:44:32 so therefore the portion to disburse information to press etc falls under me 16:44:54 and the disbursement of information to Ambassadors (and launch party planners) is under I think gnokii__ ? 16:45:19 which means any information I have I should pass along to gnokii__ as soon as I can. 16:46:43 * wstephenson_gdn is out now 16:46:44 btw suseROCKs I know such a KDE guy from Chicago maybe he helps u with prepare a launch party 16:46:50 but will log on the other machine 16:47:08 gnokii__: who is that? not nixternal, he's a buntie. 16:47:28 suseROCKs: It's openSUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 16:47:41 :-) 16:48:03 AJaeger: I though its OpenS.u.S.e 16:48:20 * AJaeger needs to finetune the bot ;-( 16:48:39 wstephenson_gdn: I know but he owns me a favor 16:48:42 michl: that will cost you! :-) 16:49:05 AJaeger do u know where the dots are? 16:49:21 yaloki, and i once thought up about creating a video (humorous) about the correct spelling and pronunciation of openSUSE (perhaps a song and dnace video) 16:50:13 next is open up infrastructure, presseed torrents a 16:50:28 AJaeger: would this be a perfect fit for coolo? 16:50:46 that task definitely needs to be someone from internal who can make things happen for us 16:50:52 http://www.goodbye-dots.de/ 16:51:19 michl: openSUSE Admin team and coolo 16:52:50 ok I think we're covered all the listed tasks? 16:53:00 AJaeger: then let's make coolo and he needs to arrange it with the admin team 16:53:19 I have a closing statement once Michl is done 16:53:47 * michl is done 16:53:55 Alrighty then... 16:54:13 First of all, WONDERFUL WONDERFUL job today folks. We really started to step up and discuss and this is a great step forward. 16:54:28 I want to emphasize a few things as we head off to our corners of tasks. 16:54:54 suseROCKs: just an advice 16:55:00 We are first and foremost... A TEAM! That means even if you are the sole coordinator of tasks, you can still ask the rest of the team for help, advice, guidance ,etc. 16:55:08 as henne said earlier - keep it simple and short ;-) 16:55:18 Yes, that's too 16:55:33 i feel it so too. 16:55:40 and likewise, even if you are not assigned to someone else's task, if you have ideas to offer, DO offer to them. We are open and communicative here! 16:56:15 So can we get a Rah Rah openSUSE!!! ? 16:56:25 and if you are not able to finish a task, then state it! 16:56:39 oh yeah, that too. :-) 16:57:00 And let's search together who can step up. 16:57:13 Do not worry about failure. It is okay to fail as long as you learn from it. 16:58:16 any other closing comments before we end this meeting? 16:58:28 * michl failed already 16:58:39 * suseROCKs isn't surprised 16:58:59 who can make the fourth column in the launch plan the right back ground 16:59:01 ? 16:59:10 * michl can't 16:59:28 k - 1 hour longer then expected but pretty productive 16:59:34 I need to head home 16:59:44 Gentlemen, thank you and good bye 16:59:47 wow didn't know michl stayed in office. I'm proud of him! 16:59:56 btw - the page is updated - of course 16:59:59 let's end the meeting now with a great group hug! 17:00:12 <<<<<<< :-) >>>>>>>>>>> 17:00:33 #endmeeting