15:09:10 #startmeeting openSUSE Marketing Meeting 15:09:10 Meeting started Tue Jun 1 15:09:10 2010 UTC. The chair is AJaeger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:09:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:22 Welcome everybody to the openSUSE Marketing Meeting 15:09:50 alexbariv: , bear454, bgerber, darix, FunkyPenguin, gnokii__, HeliosReds, javier_, paka, saigkill_, SJ, yaloki, michl: Welcome! 15:09:52 AJaeger wanna use the magic bot thingi? 15:09:57 here 15:10:03 moin 15:10:05 michl: I'm using it already ;) 15:10:12 here 15:10:18 as said - magic 15:10:32 michl: Yes, it's magic ;) 15:10:39 So, what is on the agenda for today? 15:10:40 I see 15:10:46 * obs 2.0 launch 15:10:54 * openSUSE 11.3 launch 15:11:04 Anything else we should discuss today? 15:11:22 suseROCKs is travelling right now and sends his regrets. 15:12:00 would be a great meeting 15:12:25 AJaeger, what about the cfp? 15:12:51 FunkyPenguin: What is the topic you like to add to the agenda? 15:13:05 FunkyPenguin I am glad that noone had the idea to make a strategy for it 15:13:32 AJaeger he means Call for Paper conference 15:13:36 AJaeger, how best to get the word out for the cfp, who to target etc 15:13:51 FunkyPenguin: Ok, added to the agenda. 15:13:52 sorry, yes call for papers for oSC10 15:14:05 Ok, let's start 15:14:12 #topic openSUSE 2.0 launch 15:14:30 saigkill_: could you give us an update? 15:14:32 2.0 ? 15:14:42 gnokii__: Build Service 15:14:42 #topic openSUSE BuildService 2.0 launch 15:14:50 I thaught we launch 11.3 15:14:54 yeah 15:15:05 thats better :D 15:15:18 * AJaeger will work on the final announcement soon and will place it on the Novell PR blog as well. 15:15:40 I'll try to get some quotes and contact folks to mention it. 15:15:55 Is anybody working on the success stories based on the interviews that saigkill did? 15:16:13 coolo and jw will do a video presentation showing the new features of obs 2.0 15:17:11 anything I missed? Questios, comments? 15:17:26 lloks like no work done 15:17:30 sorry did saigkill_ post the interviews? 15:17:47 * FunkyPenguin has had his head up his backside for a while :/ 15:18:10 FunkyPenguin: He uploaded them to the wiki and linked from the wik page 15:18:28 so, now we need to make success stories out of them 15:18:35 AJaeger which wiki page? 15:18:58 http://en.opensuse.org/Marketing_Team/OBS 15:19:25 Has two interviews linked 15:19:40 ah ok thanks - /me reads 15:20:08 FunkyPenguin: If you like to help, contact me - I'm stepping in now with saigkill_ sleeping... 15:20:22 #topic openSUSE 11.3 Release 15:20:37 michl, do you want to lead this topic? 15:20:58 upps, me leading anything ? that's new 15:21:00 haha 15:21:37 to get the 11.3 release from a marketing perspect started 15:21:47 I'm about creating a launch plan 15:22:23 so listing the to do's, approaching people to take responsibility for topics and so on 15:22:51 the plan will/should be soon available on a wiki page I'll publish 15:23:11 so I wrote all Ambassadors again to pepare launch parties, get deamons but nothing else 15:23:22 gnokii__: great 15:23:36 no isnt great 15:23:48 because is had no effect 15:24:18 gnokii__: oh gnokii__ doesn't want any praise 15:24:33 that's bad but your effort is good 15:25:03 michl when a thing is functional thats praise enough ;) 15:25:19 gnokii__, out of interest, do you know how fedora/ubuntu handle their launch parties? 15:25:34 yes a little bit 15:26:02 ok i'll try and catch up with you later about it then 15:26:11 i think that is part of the issue - at least for me 15:26:31 im not part of a lug, and im in a fairly remote part of the uk 15:26:48 so being able to get a group of people to play is kinda tough 15:27:58 FunkyPenguin u can meet me next week in Berlin :D 15:29:04 gnokii__, haha - i'd love to, not sure my wife or emplyer would allow me to though 15:29:08 ok, next topic? 15:29:30 #topic openSUSE Conference 15:29:48 FunkyPenguin: Do you want to lead this topic? 15:30:02 um ok i'll start ;) 15:30:55 As we know the theme for this year's conference is Collaboration Across Borders 15:31:29 * dragotin wonders what the question is 15:31:52 as part of that idea, we would like to get upstream and other distros and projects joining in and tasting the brilliant coolade that is the Geeko 15:32:16 my question is how do we best get their involvement 15:32:37 also how can we get companies that are involved in some of those projects involved 15:32:49 FunkyPenguin thats really simple 15:33:14 talk with them, invite them personally 15:34:05 gnokii__, nothing is ever *that* simple ;-) 15:34:45 i suppose it is a question more for the conf organisers 15:35:20 dragotin, are there any guidlines as to who we invite, and any "official" statement that goes along with it or anything? 15:35:23 * gnokii__ think lot of talking next week ;) 15:36:32 dragotin: ? 15:36:39 FunkyPenguin: no, how should it? 15:36:48 no, no guidelines 15:36:50 FunkyPenguin as I said "invite" I mean not to say u get a talk ;) 15:37:04 except that we have the program committee that finally decides over the program 15:37:10 gnokii__: exactly 15:37:16 I'd say anyone or any company you see a good fit you should approach 15:37:54 ok that's fine for me then - i already have one distro lined up and have a few other projects in mind 15:38:18 so which projects just say it 15:38:26 Yes, I'd say we should try to pick specific people and talk to them 15:38:39 dragotin +1 15:38:50 because its also sad if one of us invites somebody and afterwards the PC declines the talk 15:39:06 we should try to look consistent to the outside ;-) 15:39:40 ok well i've already spoken to Jorge Castro from Ubuntu - couldnt get Jono at the time 15:39:44 we could for example discuss the ideas first here 15:39:54 FunkyPenguin: very cool 15:40:49 i also have Alfresco, Intel, Funambol, Android, GNOME A11y & KDE A11y in mind 15:41:14 dragotin, we should one thing doe better first 15:42:18 * gnokii__ back to 11.3 marketing http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2010/06/opensuse-counter-for-facebook/ 15:43:23 FunkyPenguin: I would add Nokia to that list ;) 15:43:37 javier_ like alex :D 15:43:51 javier_: sure 15:44:06 yup good point 15:44:26 maybe we should add texas instruments to push arm :D 15:44:44 i'd also like to see fedora, mandriva, gentoo & debian 15:45:30 mandriva is a big problem, never seen on a german event since LinuxTag went from Karlsruhe 15:45:36 gnokii__: perhaps any of you could talk with Nokia guys at LinuxTag Berlin 15:45:53 yes, and we convince them to use the bs 15:46:03 :) 15:46:11 novell buy mandriva :D 15:46:22 AI michl: Talk to Nokia on linuxtag 15:46:38 dragotin: they build their own rhel-based distro for internal usage 15:46:47 I don't know how they build it 15:46:55 I mean using which tools 15:46:56 who? 15:47:00 Nokia 15:47:15 javier_: might be 15:47:25 javier_: its never to late to switch 15:47:32 hehe 15:48:06 even if they keep using their RHEL-based OS, perhaps they could benefit from using the Build Service 15:48:21 * dragotin knows that they do already 15:48:31 dragotin maybe we should only notive the interesting projects and talk about keynotes first 15:48:33 nice :) 15:48:40 javier_: As part of MeeGo, Nokia is using build service... 15:49:02 gnokii__: yes, keynotes should be handled quickly 15:49:05 AJaeger: nice. I didn't know that. I was thinking about their servers 15:49:06 to get some good 15:49:24 yes thats the point and keynotes we have to invite really personally 15:49:26 Anybody having proposals on what kind of keynotes we want? 15:50:06 dragotin, u had a idea M$ should we risk that? 15:50:18 I guess the program comittee takes care of keynotes, correct? 15:50:41 well keynotes really need to epitomise the theme of the conference imho 15:51:00 gnokii__: What would we want from them? 15:51:12 so getting something that covers working with multiple projects or distros or something would be great 15:52:19 AJaeger, i'd love to see MS there talking about collaboration with other OSes, how they find working in open source etc 15:53:16 I looking with mixed feelings when I see the reactions about M$ sponsorship linuxtag 15:56:08 any other proposals for keynote topics or speakers? 15:56:28 do we want a keynote by Novell? Which topic? 15:56:55 AJaeger its a little bit speaking in own house 15:57:57 gnokii__: And look at Brainshare, Intell developer conferences etc. - the organisator normally gives a keynote 15:58:18 perhaps we should ask our chairperson or somebody from the board for a keynote? 15:58:55 Note: I'm not pushing for having a keynote by a certain group - I want great speakers and topics! 16:00:34 * AJaeger thinks that nobody likes his proposals 16:02:02 mabye he adress 16:02:09 yes, someone from the board 16:03:15 or from the new community manager if we hired one by then as kind of introduction? 16:03:45 AJaeger: I doubt that a story just around openSUSE is the right fit 16:04:19 imo a key note either shows something outstanding new or a general vision where we or the industry is heating to 16:04:43 AJaeger: do you have any candidates? 16:04:46 * FunkyPenguin needs to head out 16:05:15 michl: let's look whether we have candidates in openSUSE for that - and if there none, so be it. 16:05:37 javier_: I have nobody specific in mind, just want to have us think outside of the box 16:05:52 let's move on to the next topic, ok? 16:06:15 #topic Q and A 16:06:27 Any general questions or discussions? 16:07:25 damn it , was these a meeting ? 16:07:31 I guess yes . . . :( 16:07:40 SJ: no, it still is 16:07:41 these=there* 16:07:50 michl, ohk :-) 16:08:03 about to end . Well I thought its on 3rd 16:08:08 AJaeger: the openSUSE KDE team has started his own blog to have more visibility regarding openSUSE/KDE work 16:08:18 AJaeger: perhaps other teams could do something similar 16:08:29 javier_: is it part of planet openSUSE? 16:08:33 javier_: Great! 16:08:48 AJaeger: I am not sure. It's part of KDE planet 16:09:00 javier_: it should be part of openSUSE IMO 16:09:36 AJaeger: I don't see it in the list of feeds 16:09:44 it's called KDE at openSUSE 16:09:53 yepp 16:10:35 Sorry to interrupt , did I miss some announcement or notification ? 16:10:54 javier_: Please file a bug against opensuse.org/infrastructure and assign it to yaloki 16:11:10 ok 16:11:12 SJ: We missed to send the announcement out - but it was part of the openSUSE calendar 16:11:32 javier_: And other teams should do the same. Could you post something on -project to encourage others? 16:11:45 SJ: Since yesterday only. Sorry. 16:11:51 AJaeger, ok no worries.I should start using the openSUSE calendar (than mine) . 16:11:53 np :-) 16:13:18 anything else or should we adjourn the meeting for today? 16:14:20 * AJaeger wishes everybody a nice evening/day/morning (depending where you are) and finishes the meeting now 16:14:22 #endmeeting